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Best Gloves under $200 Mammut Norwand vs Hestra XCR Army

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Ski season's greetings yall! Basically I get one gift from my parents under $200 for christmas and would like as much input as possible on gloves. I am really really bad with liners so I dont want a glove with removable liners, but I would consider a high end shell if those are even made. Also if I end up with a glove where if you pull your hand out too quick you can pull out the attached inner liner and never get it back in I will probably have a heart attack. So far on my short list I have Hestra's XCR Army glove (gauntlet not short) and Mammut's Norwand Glove (again gauntlet). From what I have gathered the difference between the two is Hestra is goat leather and Mammut is Pittard Sheep leather, and Hestra is XCR. while Mammut is Pro Shell (both goretex) and Hestra may have a better shape for gripping ski poles. Common sense says I will probably love either one but I am really picky on gloves so any help would be great (my hands are either sweating or freezing). Also is this el nino la nina or no nino?
post #2 of 20
I don't know anything about the Mammut glove but the Hestra would never get my vote. other people love them, I think they're overrated. I have some Outdoor Research gloves that are much better, but they 've been discontinued. Black Diamond Guide gloves would probably get my vote as the best under $200.
post #3 of 20

BD Guide is the best glove for the money with current deals going around $70 to $100 bucks. 

post #4 of 20
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BD Guide is the best glove for the money with current deals going around $70 to $100 bucks. 

Who'selling them for less than $100? The best price I can find is $101.97 at Backcountry.
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Who'selling them for less than $100? The best price I can find is $101.97 at Backcountry.


The Clymb has them for $70.  Saw them on there yesterday.

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I've got a bunch of Hestra gloves, and swear by them.  I have the XCR gloves in both short and gauntlet.  Both are warm, dry and have good dexterity.  I'm thinking about selling the short gloves, because I just don't use them enough, but can't bring myself to do it because they're such a high quality piece.  Also, just picked up the XCR 3 fingered mitt for $120 - I figure this can be my super cold and puking snow glove.

 

Just thinking about it, that will make 6 pairs of Hestras in the "quiver".  I guess I have a problem.

post #7 of 20

I still say the Mountain Hardware gloves with the OutDry is about the best out there.   100% h20-proof and highly breathable. waterproofing membrane is bonded at the outer layer, not like the GTX where it's at the liner level.  

post #8 of 20
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I still say the Mountain Hardware gloves with the OutDry is about the best out there.   100% h20-proof and highly breathable. waterproofing membrane is bonded at the outer layer, not like the GTX where it's at the liner level.  

I had to return the Jalapeno with outdry, not because the fabric was faulty, but it was VERY poorly constructed, with cold spots in several places, uneven lining placement with voids, noticeable at 32*. I am going to suggest that these companies make gloves in several places, some can make gloves, some can't. Mountain Hardware, as a badge, tag, brand, probably means nothing in and of itself, with each model having a different manufacturing.  A brand I once counted on now means nada.

post #9 of 20
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The Clymb has them for $70.  Saw them on there yesterday.

I think BD also have last year's for $95 on their website, pretty much nothing changed I guess.

post #10 of 20

I've tried Hestra, Black Diamond, and Mountain Hardwear.  Pros and cons to each, but it depends what is your priority?  Mostly, do your hands get cold, do you value dexterity, or.........?  There is a distinct difference between these gloves, depending on what you're looking for as important features/considerations.

 

MH gloves stay dry but they're not very warm.  BD gloves stay warm but they're not very dextrous.  Hestra gloves are good at pretty much everything, but not necessarily the best at any one single thing.  That said, the XCR version aren't as warm as the Heli version.  Heli has removable liner, XCR does not.  The Gore-Tex insert doesn't make that much difference, unless perhaps you're skiing exclusively in the PNW in constant spring conditions.

 

To be honest, why do you say you're bad with liners?  Is it the design?  Do you take them out and lose them?  The Hestra Heli liner design is excellent so I'm not sure what you would worry about with liners.

post #11 of 20
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The Clymb has them for $70.  Saw them on there yesterday.

 

Wish I could wear a small.

post #12 of 20

Wish The Clymb would ship to Canada.

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Wish The Clymb would ship to Canada.

 

Got a friend or relative in the US?

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I would recommend the Hestra XCR. I purchased a pair last year and they are the best gloves I've owned by far. My hands tend to get very cold and I can tell you I did not wear my mittens once last winter and I am in Canada, it can get very cold up here.  Don't like Mountain Hardware at all and cannot say anything about BD for the warmth, but I definitely find them too stiff for my liking. Still cannot find better combination of warmth and softness like the Hestras.

post #15 of 20
My vote is black diamond guides. I got mine for $60 on cyber Monday, but if you look you can find them for $100ish. I haven't actually skid with them yet but they fit great and are very comfortable. A tad stuff but not bad imi
post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for the input I really do appreciate it seems like BD Guide and Hestra has got alot of good feedback. Does not seem like anyone has tried the Mammut Gloves. I have only tried the cheapo aftermarket thin liners and my fingers end up ripping through them and i do seem to loose them. Maybe if the liners were cheap to replace i could into it.
post #17 of 20

Kinco Cold weather Work gloves $21..... spend the other 179 on a new ski jacket and some underwear

 

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post #18 of 20
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Kinco Cold weather Work gloves $21..... spend the other 179 on a new ski jacket and some underwear

 

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Yup, put snow seal on them, and you are set for the next two season. Spend the $179 on helmet or lift ticket!

 

I tried BD Guide Gloves, they were so stiff that I couldn't close my fingers to make a fist. Maybe they require break in period like baseball gloves?

 

BD Gloves for less than $100: http://www.wildernessexchangeunlimited.com/product_detail.cfm?CatID=6&PID=5792&SKU=19366&LinkID=1

post #19 of 20

If you like the Mountain Hardwear Outdry fabric (is it rebranded eVent?) try looking at Columbia gloves (Columbia owns MH). I didn't like any of the MH glove designs, so got a pair of Columbia Gathering Storms w/ Outdry last year and I'm happy with them after 1 season. They are warm, dry and breath well enough for my sweaty hands. It fits like your standard puffy ski glove. I'm not going to be picking up quarters on the glacier in them.

 

http://www.columbia.com/Men%E2%80%99s-Gathering-Storm%E2%84%A2-Glove/SM9466,default,pd.html

 

If you really want to go nuts, you can also get gloves with electric heat!

 

http://www.columbia.com/Men%E2%80%99s-Bugaglove-Max-Electric%E2%84%A2/SM7867,default,pd.html
 

post #20 of 20

Outdry and DryQ is not Event. it's based on it but it's their own membrane and its better. But yeah, columbia owns it so my guess it's decent stuff but I don't know if the biuld quality is as good. I know Davluri had a bad pair but all brands have issues, I had to return a pair of Hestra's too and they are great gloves.  Nothing breaths as well as the Outdry and DryQ. and I have nothing but good things to say about their gloves or shells with that membrane.  

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