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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hey all looking to buy a new set of skis and could use some help.

 

A little background, I am 6'1" 178lbs and athletic. I took a few years off but since starting up again last year I get up to the mountain about 10-15 days of the year. As far as skill level I am an intermediate skier but I am just breaking into intermediate status. I ski mostly frontside but I enjoy skiing fast and also more technical runs, go off piste maybe 15-20% of the time. I want to be able to explore the power when I can.


I will be skiing on the West Coast, namely, British Columbia ( Whistler & Mt Washington).

 

Last year I used a friends 176cm Rossignal Z72's. Did not really like them. I really would like a little bit more underfoot and also a bit of a rocker for the powder days.

 

Ultimately I am looking for an all mountain ski that will be fun and easy to ski at my level, but also one that provides room for advancement and allows me to grow as a skier.

 

So far I have been looking at the 178cm Atomic Smoke (not the TI) and the 178 cm Atomic Colt. Are these a close fit to my needs?

will they be too short for my height due to their semi rocker tip? I am VERYYY open to other suggestions so please help me out!

 

 

Thanks in advance!

post #2 of 10
Thread Starter 

Also, it should be noted I have boots and I am not looking to rent 

post #3 of 10

Hi and welcome to you. Have you got an opportunity to demo near you? Its fun comparing diff skis and the best way to get a good fit. Often the demo fee can be offset against the price of the skis. Or you can look for last years model of the skis you like and save some money that way without risking not liking the skis as much as you thought.

post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 

I have an opportunity to demo at one of the mountains closer to my home (Mt Washington), however, their selection is questionable. But I am going to try to get there and try a few out at least. Ultimately, I would like to find a pair there and buy them before my vacation to Whistler so I don't have to go through the hassle of demoing while at the big mountain.
 

Also looking for demo recommendations I just need to know what else is out there that is worth while to test. So far all I can find that best fits my description are those Atomics I mentioned earlier

post #5 of 10

Welcome to EpicSki.  My opinion is that at 77mm underfoot both of those skis are too narrow.  I really think you should be in the 85-95mm range and there are some great skis that have at least early rise tip and some with early rise tip and tail.  For what you want to do you also want a ski with some camber underfoot.  Skis to consider should include Blizzard Bushwacker, Blizzard Magnum 8.5 Ti, Nordica Steadfast, Rossignol E88, Salomon Rocker2 90, Line Prophet 90, Elan Apex,Atomic Nomad Crimson Ti, and there are others.  My daily driver is the Nordica Steadfast, lightweight, early rise tip, camber, quick, responsive, terrific edge grip.  I ski mostly off-piste but they really hold an edge on the groomers    If the ski has only early rise tip you probably shouldn't get less than about 178-180, but if it has early rise tip and tail, you should be looking at something more than 180.  You should be able to demo skis are Whistler and that is what you should do if at all possible.

post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply and insight! I was really considering the early/ mid 80s but I'm a little worried about turn initiation/exit. But your post is making me think twice for sure. I hated the 72 underfoot of those rossis and I guess the 77 on the atomica isn't that much different

I should mention my price range is around $550
post #7 of 10

Go to a reputable local shop and tell them you're interested in a ski 85-90mm underfoot, camber, early rise, 175-180cm length, either a demo or prior year(s) with bindings for that price.  See what they can do.  If they propose something you're not familiar with, tell us and someone will likely know about it.

post #8 of 10

i agree with mtcyclist, esp if you wish to ski the wet coast (i'm in vancouver too)...there are many varied

conditions here as you know, so look for a more versatile ski, esp if you wish to explore more off piste, as you mention.

 

...the skis listed below have come along way vs what those (esp 90mm + waist) would do even 5 yrs ago

...they're more versatile.

 

as also suggested, if you're at whistler/blackcomb then take advantage

of their free demo tent and ski the hell of the demos on varied conditions (on and off piste) to get a feel for them.

once you narrow it down  there is craigslist, with lots of sellers (as well as on here) if you wish to buy used.

 

one last thing to keep sane:  many skiers don't keep skis more than a 2-4 seasons before we're unloading them try the next best thing 

...ski manufacturers and retailers are renowned in their marketing for ''tweaking'' a ski each yr or coming out with something ''new'' to keep us buying

the latest and greatest.

 

so if you try a particular set of skis,  you may grow to love the as your skills expand

....or you may not...

but you can then just as easily  unload them on here or elsewhere to try something new and give it a shot.

 

skis are like any hobby:  they're forever exchanging hands as people experiment and grow their skill sets.

 

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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Welcome to EpicSki.  My opinion is that at 77mm underfoot both of those skis are too narrow.  I really think you should be in the 85-95mm range and there are some great skis that have at least early rise tip and some with early rise tip and tail.  For what you want to do you also want a ski with some camber underfoot.  Skis to consider should include Blizzard Bushwacker, Blizzard Magnum 8.5 Ti, Nordica Steadfast, Rossignol E88, Salomon Rocker2 90, Line Prophet 90, Elan Apex,Atomic Nomad Crimson Ti, and there are others.  My daily driver is the Nordica Steadfast, lightweight, early rise tip, camber, quick, responsive, terrific edge grip.  I ski mostly off-piste but they really hold an edge on the groomers    If the ski has only early rise tip you probably shouldn't get less than about 178-180, but if it has early rise tip and tail, you should be looking at something more than 180.  You should be able to demo skis are Whistler and that is what you should do if at all possible.


Edited by canali - 12/1/12 at 12:59pm
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by sn1ck View Post

Hey all looking to buy a new set of skis and could use some help.

 

A little background, I am 6'1" 178lbs and athletic. I took a few years off but since starting up again last year I get up to the mountain about 10-15 days of the year. As far as skill level I am an intermediate skier but I am just breaking into intermediate status. I ski mostly frontside but I enjoy skiing fast and also more technical runs, go off piste maybe 15-20% of the time. I want to be able to explore the power when I can.


I will be skiing on the West Coast, namely, British Columbia ( Whistler & Mt Washington).

 

Last year I used a friends 176cm Rossignal Z72's. Did not really like them. I really would like a little bit more underfoot and also a bit of a rocker for the powder days.

 

Ultimately I am looking for an all mountain ski that will be fun and easy to ski at my level, but also one that provides room for advancement and allows me to grow as a skier.

 

So far I have been looking at the 178cm Atomic Smoke (not the TI) and the 178 cm Atomic Colt. Are these a close fit to my needs?

will they be too short for my height due to their semi rocker tip? I am VERYYY open to other suggestions so please help me out!

 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

IF you are athletic, i think you will overpower the smoke and colt and they will feel too floppy, especially if you like speed as you said  You will outgrow these I think..

If you picked these since they are at a more affordable price point, I would suggest


For atomic, start at least at blackeye (or ti)

Also take a look at k2 rictor.  

Both of these have been out for a few seasons so it should be widely available at a discount, especially if you get either used or new but last year's stock.

post #10 of 10

I would think you could probably ski and grow into anything in the in the mid to upper end of the RTM, Nomad, Enduro, Magnum, Experience, Pursuit or AMP series of skis without getting the most advanced one in the line?

 

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I personally may get skis that are a big jump as far as ability level is concerned...if they are too much to handle, well, I'll still have my mid-level skis to fall back and practice on until I can ski my way into them...and I'll have whatever I get for a few years anyhow.

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