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Full Tilt Boots - Quality

post #1 of 15
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Hi, I'm considering to buy some Full Tilt Seth Morrison's, I'm just unsure if they are the right boots for me.
 
But what is the Quality of the Full Tilt boots? What is everybodys general impression of the boots. I haven't heard of the brand before, is it trust worthy or will the boots just break? I'm wondering what everybody has experienced with these boots.

Have they been breaking a lot?
post #2 of 15
Hi, I have not heard anything bad about full tilt boots except when the wrong size or shape have been bought. Unaware of any quality issue.
post #3 of 15

Welcome to EpicSki.  Full Tilt has been around for several years and has developed a sizable following.  There is also a fair number of professional skiers who use them, like Seth Morrison and Tom Wallisch.  Full Tilts are an updated version of the old Raichle Flexxons and one of the great things about them is that you can change the flex by changing the tongue.  Several of their models can be purchased with Intuition liners which can be heat-molded to your feet for a near perfect fit.  I can't tell from your post if you've actually tried them on or not, but I would recommend you not buy them unless you have so you know exactly what size fits.  Seek out a knowledgeable boot fitter for help getting the right size.  What feels comfortable in the store is most likely too big.

post #4 of 15

The buckles need a serious re-design. The boots are state of the art... 1990. They work well or are necessary for some. Other's, not so much. If it works for your foot Luddig, then have at'em.

post #5 of 15
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The buckles need a serious re-design. The boots are state of the art... 1990. They work well or are necessary for some. Other's, not so much. If it works for your foot Luddig, then have at'em.

i second this. Great boots, horrible buckles. 

post #6 of 15

The plastic buckles aren't very good, I do like the metal ones though. The best part about the buckles is the easy on the fly adjustability, just bend down and tighten or loosen. They have their good and bad points, but I love mine. I even picked up a set of Raichle Flexons in the same size for use as a second set of boots.

post #7 of 15

The cable buckles coupled with the external tongue are sort of what makes Raichle boots what they are. If you don't like, don't whine, get different boots.

post #8 of 15
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The cable buckles coupled with the external tongue are sort of what makes Raichle boots what they are. If you don't like, don't whine, get different boots.

 

Or you could go with a 21st century cabrio boot like the Kryptons.

post #9 of 15

+1 for Dalbello Krypton series boots.  I love my Krypton Cross ID boots, fit like a glove.

post #10 of 15

Very timely! I was just recently looking into the same thing.

 

My older teen needs Full Tilts due to her switching from racing to freestyle aerial. Fit-wise, she tells me that she loves her FTs as much as her Lange race boots but the Tilts (as they call them) are much lighter (by almost 2 lbs). With the same fit, the sole length of the FT is roughly 6mm shorter than the Langes. For that reason, she is using both this season.

 

As for the technology, we picked up spare new pairs of old stock Flexons at our swap for summer jumping. When set side by side, the 1990s Flexons are exactly the same as the FTs. Just amazing how technology just comes back around.

post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by chanwmr View Post

Very timely! I was just recently looking into the same thing.

 

My older teen needs Full Tilts due to her switching from racing to freestyle aerial. Fit-wise, she tells me that she loves her FTs as much as her Lange race boots but the Tilts (as they call them) are much lighter (by almost 2 lbs). With the same fit, the sole length of the FT is roughly 6mm shorter than the Langes. For that reason, she is using both this season.

 

As for the technology, we picked up spare new pairs of old stock Flexons at our swap for summer jumping. When set side by side, the 1990s Flexons are exactly the same as the FTs. Just amazing how technology just comes back around.

 

Well they didn't really come back around.  FTs are built form exactly the same molds as the Flexons.

 

Cabrio vs overlap is somewhat of a religious argument.  I have found no quality problems with FT boots.  There are now a number of cabrio designs available from a number of manufacturers so you have some other choices if you are a cabrio fan but can't get the right fit with FT or want different buckles or whatever.

post #12 of 15

one day of use of mine - 

 

coming from race boots... always had them since i was 7... or 4 buckle ones as someone will say the raichles were race boots!!!

 

was not skiing hard but giving a lesson, got tom wallisch with 10 tongue in -

 

so light

liners are so warm

soft boot board is very weird and don't feel it on GS turns but on more mucking around, snow ploughs etc... 

Buckles are fiddly but first day... rather got Seth Morrisons with the metal buckles but no chance of getting them in the Uk in my size!!! cant see them breaking

the cable covers are annoying and considering removing them

Flex feels soft standing but so far good whilst skiing

will probably order WC booster straps on monday for them

only jumped on wee bumps and feel so good on landing and light in the air

so easy out at end of day

 

skiing tomorrow with a friend who races so will be a good fun day seeing what they are like at speed... 

post #13 of 15
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one day of use of mine - 

 

coming from race boots... always had them since i was 7... or 4 buckle ones as someone will say the raichles were race boots!!!

Zurbriggen and many other champions raced in Raichle Flexon boots.

post #14 of 15

Have had a pair of (black/red) classics for a year now and used them on a 2 week trip to Japan.  For some reason the shop didn't heat mold the intuition liner but said it would shape with a day or two of use.  They also didn't do a proper measurement but just left it to what felt right for me.  As a result i got on to the hill and had searing pain for the first two days.

 

I took them to a boot fitter in Niseko (Rhythm Ski) who did some shell manipulations.  They said they were limited in what they could do by the design of the shell and placement of the buckles.  Anyway i got some relief from what they were able to do and skied the next week in moderate comfort.  It was mostly sweet powder and easy to ski.  The next week it turned to slush and concrete and wasn't much fun and my feet hurt like hell.  I spent a good 1-2 hrs each day in the cafe with my boots off massaging my feet back to life.

 

I think this has something to do with the narrow last (98mm i believe) of the boots and me like most aussies having fairly broad feet.  That said i like the support the boots offer and the ease of getting in and out.  Just wish i had sized properly.  I found i could get some good micro adjustments with the buckles but they do have a tendency to freeze up.

 

Going back to the shop for a liner heat mold but not feeling very optimistic.

post #15 of 15

After 5 seasons on FT's I have no problems with the buckles.  When I first got them the buckles were a minor issue but I think after about the 5th day on them I could get them adjusted perfectly without thinking about it.  It's engrained in my muscle memory now and I don't give it a second thought.   Great boots if they are fitted properly and you like the even flex.   I love how light weight they are and I can attest that they have been very durable.

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