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post #1 of 10
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Hi everyone. I've been researching skis today as I found a sale online and stumbled upon these forums. Everyone seemed to be helpful so I thought I might ask for your opinion.

 

Just a little info on myself, I'm a recent college grad with a small budget, so I've been hunting for a good deal to replace my 10 year old pair of skis. I live in Ohio, so I would be skiing midwest conditions. I consider myself an intermediate skier, at least on the glorified hills around here I'm happy on the blues and blacks, but when I've visited upstate New York and Vermont I was more comfortable mainly on the blues. I'm a little held back being a big guy (6'3" 285lbs), but I'm in the process of working on that.

 

Anyway, to the skis I was looking at today:

 

Fischer Motive 78 Skis with RSX 12 PR Bindings

http://www.skis.com/Fischer-Motive-78-Skis-with-RSX-12-PR-Bindings-2012/240206,default,pd.html

 

Rossignol Avenger 76 Basalt Skis with TPI2 Axium 120 Bindings

http://www.skis.com/Rossignol-Avenger-76-Basalt-Skis-with-TPI2-Axium-120-Bindings-2012/227449,default,pd.html

 

Blizzard G-Force Three IQ Skis with IQ LT 10 Bindings

http://www.skis.com/Blizzard-G-Force-Three-IQ-Skis-with-IQ-LT-10-Bindings/276608,default,pd.html

 

Is anyone familiar with any of these skis, and could possibly comment on how they would fit me? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

post #2 of 10

Welcome to EpicSki!  You may get more help if you answer some basic questions that are in this EpicSki article:

http://www.epicski.com/a/five-key-questions-when-buying-new-skis

 

Did you happen to come across this thread?  Another big man who was looking to get his first skis and boots.

http://www.epicski.com/t/114626/intermediate-skier-needs-help-with-gear-selection#post_1503161

 

Good luck shopping!

post #3 of 10

Welcome to EpicSki.  Let's see what we know about you.  Height, weight, where you ski.  Those are probably the most important things.  There is just one other bit that might be helpful and that is what are your plans with skiing; stay on the groomers? try off-piste? try back country? try bumps?  If you're content where you are currently(groomers) I would recommend Rossi Avenger 82 Ti.  I've skied these and it is a really good groomer ski that you can progress with and even take off-piste a bit.  I think 82mm is a better width and more user friendly across a wider variety of snow conditions and terrain than 76mm.  And get it in the 182cm length.   If you want or plan to do something different from that then a different ski might be in order.  

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Thread Starter 

I did look at the tips for buying marznc, good info, but I was  hoping for some hands on experience from you guys. Thank you for that other thread! I didn't see it before and it offers some good advice on boot inserts that I never realized existed.

 

I did forget to mention what type of skiing I prefer. I'm almost exclusively a groomed run skiier, which is why I was thinking the Rossi 76's, but for my size, having a little more ski under me with the 82's might be worth looking into.

 

Thanks for the info guys.

post #5 of 10

Glad to help.  The other advantage of going wider is that the skis will be more versatile when you take them out of the midwest.  For use on groomers, you'll probably be happy with whatever fits best in the budget.  At least for a couple seasons.  Will you have a chance to catch a Demo Day?  Meaning when a bunch of vendors set up tents at a ski area and folks can take out skis for free to check them out for a run or two.

 

What have you done about boots?

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Originally Posted by hubie12 View Post

I did look at the tips for buying marznc, good info, but I was  hoping for some hands on experience from you guys. Thank you for that other thread! I didn't see it before and it offers some good advice on boot inserts that I never realized existed.

 

I did forget to mention what type of skiing I prefer. I'm almost exclusively a groomed run skiier, which is why I was thinking the Rossi 76's, but for my size, having a little more ski under me with the 82's might be worth looking into.

 

Thanks for the info guys.

post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 

The local ski resort in this area has a demo day on Jan. 8th. My only worry about that is I like the deal online I have now I dont know when it is over haha. From what I read, the Rossi Avengers are a popular ski, but it would be nice to demo some pairs. This has me so torn lol.

 

I own a pair of boots which aren't too old, but I would like to upgrade those down the road as well. Maybe when I have more funds to buy a much better pair than what I've got. I would tell you what they are, but they are in storage atm and I can't recall off hand what they are. I would love to find someone who could actually fit and give me advice on what to buy, instead of the teenagers who work at the shops in town around here.

post #7 of 10

Hubie, if what you want is some quick answers, here it is:  any of the skis you note will be significantly better than your 10-year old skis.  I note that skis.com also has a sale on Rossignol Avenger 82 (the basalt not the ti), which might address the width issue.  But, in fact, if you are skiing mostly groom in midwest and perhaps east, you don't really need anything wider than 82 underfoot and 70-84 will be fine.  Your biggest issue will be finding a ski long and stiff enough for your weight, so maybe the Rossi 82 would be better as it is a stiffer and longer ski than the others.

 

But in fact, I think in older boots and with your experience, you may not really tell or care about the nuances between these skis -- they're all good.  The public (and salespeople) fixate on skis.  But I would suggest simply buying one that fits your budget -- and then set aside time and money for boots.  Find a bootfitter here or at www.bootfitters.com and dedicate some time during a trip to get the right boots.  Boots are the single most important element in the performance equation.  You will eventually get other skis b/c you want to or feel you "need" to, but good, well-fitting boots will stay with you for a long time.

post #8 of 10

Yeah, if the price is really good there is a lot to be said for just getting the purchase over and done.  You can still demo for future reference.  Besides, Demo Days are fun.  For my first shaped ski, I got something for $100 bucks during the summer that weren't much better than rentals . . . probably because they were former rental skis.  rolleyes.gif  They were fine for skiing in the southeast for a few weekends.  I knew a lot more about what I wanted by the next fall.

 

How close are you to Pittsburgh?  Sounds like there is a very good boot fitter there.  

http://www.epicski.com/t/99073/new-shop-and-serious-boot-fitter-in-pittsburgh-area

 

Hmm, need to use a link to a new website.  The boot fitter is in Gibsonia.  He recently posted to a thread by someone looking for boots in Pittsburgh.

http://peakskiandboard.com/

 

I was surprised to find a few years ago that a little shop near me in central NC has a good boot fitter.  There is one in SC too.  So don't have to be in big mountain ski country to find a boot fitter.  I got into some good boots for about $400 during spring sales, almost 50% off MSRP.  They weren't the latest model year, but who cares?  He's also found new boots from previous years for my daughter . . . twice.

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Originally Posted by hubie12 View Post

The local ski resort in this area has a demo day on Jan. 8th. My only worry about that is I like the deal online I have now I dont know when it is over haha. From what I read, the Rossi Avengers are a popular ski, but it would be nice to demo some pairs. This has me so torn lol.

 

I own a pair of boots which aren't too old, but I would like to upgrade those down the road as well. Maybe when I have more funds to buy a much better pair than what I've got. I would tell you what they are, but they are in storage atm and I can't recall off hand what they are. I would love to find someone who could actually fit and give me advice on what to buy, instead of the teenagers who work at the shops in town around here.

post #9 of 10

I'll be the contrarian here.  I'd buy skis too ... and I wouldn't obsess over the decision.  Well, maybe a little.

 

I skied 4 days, then bought gear.  I'd have given up skiing altogether before I'd have continued standing in rental lines.  Also, demos are great IF 1) you're not mentally under-the-gun to buy skis, and 2) you have the funds to buy more current stuff.  So, if I were you, I'd take recommendations, do a little research, buy something reasonable to get me by, and then demo as opportunities present themselves.  Meanwhile, I'd be out skiing.

 

Having said that, mtcyclist has made a recommendation.  You might see if you can find any of them at a good price.  If not, I noticed that StartHaus has Salomon BBR 7.9 (flat) at $299.  Looks like they have it in a 179, which is the longest that ski came in, from what I see.  There is some discussion on this forum about the BBR.  You might want to read that and also watch the video StartHaus has on their site re: these skis.  And if you seriously contemplate the BBR, the guys at StartHaus can tell you whether that ski will be long enough and stiff enough for you.

 

I'm sure there will be other recommendations coming in to give you more to chew on.


Edited by vickieh - 12/1/12 at 2:37pm
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I have a good gameplan to go with now. I'll look into some of the skis you all have mentioned and just make a gut decision. I'm only 3 hours from Pittsburgh, and I have good friends out that way anyway. So maybe this spring I could take a little sale shopping trip and catch end of the season deals while I save up some boot money.

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