Lifting the ski off the snow is pretty clear to me. Relaxing a leg and letting it flex while keeping the ski on the snow is pretty clear as well. I'm a bit surprised they are getting offered as "essentially" the same. I would be interested in reading how you lift that inside ski off the snow without lifting it off the snow. Ultimately for the reasons I've offered (they are from the top coaches here in the US as well as the top ed staffs of most teaching organizations), I say again that we don't ski like we did back in 95. Years from now we won't ski the same way we ski now.
Like Griz and many others here, I've been around for forty years of technical and tactical changes and I've been teaching this stuff for that long. Including in and out of bounds patrol certification training, USSA racing, as well as PSIA's certification training. I also have spent several seasons training under a WC level racer, several with an Eight Time World Extreme Champion, and several seasons studying with ten or twelve different PSIA demo team members. Not to mention working with guys like Bob Barnes to train our ski instructor staff before he moved over to Copper. That doesn't mean I know everything about the sport, I don't and I doubt that is possible in one lifetime. That being said, I know what I know and I know it on a very detailed and comprehensive basis. I understand the bio-mechanics, physiology, anatomy, kinesiology and tactical reasoning behind everything we've discussed. If some find my opinions a bit condescending, I hope they reconsider that and seek to understand my posts and the sound research and study behind them. That doesn't mean I expect others here will agree with me because their lifetime of study included a different but just as remarkable list of coaches and mentors. In a perfect world we can all learn from each other, especially when we don't end up agreeing. Although IMO when terms like DOGMA enter that dialog that opportunity to learn is wasted by the person using that dismissive and very closed minded term.
So to return to the dialog about technique, even though ice and hard snow skiing features a stronger focus on outside ski purchase, holding a ski up off the snow isn't as prevalent as some here are trying to suggest. That doesn't mean WC level racers skiing on injected ice don't end up on one ski but that isn't an objective as much as an incidental result. A total opposite from the days where balancing only on the outside ski and keeping the inside ski physically lifted off the snow was an integral part of the sport. As far as the width of our stances, some narrowing doesn't and should not be confused with the extremely narrow stances from fifteen or twenty years ago. A specific change I had to adopt if I expected to pass any of my multiple certifications in all of those organizations. Arguing otherwise ignores how the sport has evolved.
On a personal side, I believe it takes much better balance to ski using old skis and that extremely narrow stance. I wonder if it's even possible to keep our feet and legs that tight on today's wide body skis. I still remember the Atomic powder plus skis requiring us to open up our stances just to avoid them overlapping. That doesn't mean those skis were bad, far from it. Over the course of two years they became a standard on the powder eights circuit. Just like glass and metal skis supplanted wood skis back in Killy's day and parabolic skis replaced traditional skis over a few years in the late nineties.
Thanks you Kook for being the counter point in this thread, I wish we could meet and make some turns together. I think we would find we see things with more commonality than substantive differences. To everyone else I want to extend an open invitation to join me over at any of our Vail Resorts, it would be fun to share some turns.
All the best everyone and Merry Christmas,
Edited by justanotherskipro - 12/9/12 at 4:16pm