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What is a "driver" toe, and what does it do?

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It's connection to the toeplate looks small.  What is it's function?

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Driver refers to the foam rubber suspension under the AFD on the Salomon toes, and rubber under the heels, in their 977 and 997 series bindings. Often people call the various Salomon toe types, which also have adjustable toe wings, and employ the same mechanism used in the Driver series, "Driver toes". It's inaccurate, but people make mistakes, which after being repeated, become convention, so now people often will refer to the driver toes on their STH 14s. rolleyes.gif

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Ok, so the new STH "drivers" aren't the real "drivers" volantaddict is talking about.

 

So, what are the fake "driver" toes, and what purpose do they serve?

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If I'm correct, the Salomon STH 16 has the real Driver toe, and the STH 14 has the same. The Atomic FFG 16 also has the Driver toe, but not the FFG 14.

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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post

Driver refers to the foam rubber suspension under the AFD on the Salomon toes, and rubber under the heels, in their 977 and 997 series bindings. Often people call the various Salomon toe types, which also have adjustable toe wings, and employ the same mechanism used in the Driver series, "Driver toes". It's inaccurate, but people make mistakes, which after being repeated, become convention, so now people often will refer to the driver toes on their STH 14s. rolleyes.gif


People like Salomon?

 

http://www.salomon.com/us/product/sth-14-driver.html

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Especially people like Solomon.    Marketing must have been very upset with a term that actually meant something; they had to do something to confuse the issue.   Otherwise people might become more interested in steak than sizzle. wink.gif

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To answer the second part of your question, the (possibly wrongly named but commonly used term) 'driver toe' generally refers the the traditional salomon toe piece. This is the toepiece that appears on all of the 14 and higher DIN versions of the 977, 997 and most of the 14 DIN and higher 900 and 9xx series bindings. The sTH steel and sTH 16 has the 'driver toe'. I believe the sTH 12 and 14 have come in the driver version and the non-driver version.

 

The 'driver' toe is well designed, very solid and allows you to adjust the height of the toe according to how trashed your boots are as well as the adjusting the wings to the width of your boot.

 

The 'non-driver' toe is a self-adjusting plastic piece of crap that has a terrible habit for pre-releasing and falling apart. The crap toe piece made it's way the 12 and 14 DIN versions until Salomon got some bad feedback and then re-introduced the 'driver' toe that was designed around 20 years ago. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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People like Salomon?

 

http://www.salomon.com/us/product/sth-14-driver.html

 

My, how embarrassing, how chagrined I feel. I was unaware that Salomon has decided to apply the word driver to a model subsequent to the 997s; it wasn't on the 900s, or the 912s, and the STHs weren't carrying that name a couple years back. However, it fits with what I said, confusion has become convention. Doubtless Salomon picked up on the fact that much of their target demographic was using the term "driver" generically, to describe the basic toe design which existed long before Salomon came out with the Driver series in the early 90s,  and retrieved the name to give their product an enhanced brand familiarity.

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