Originally Posted by dakine
How do you catagorize a hop turn where the turning is done in the air.
The skis are unweighted but the turning is done in the air.
Momentum is unchanged during the hop and pressure on the skis after landing (edge set) redirects the momentum in the new direction.
What categorise it is a hop turn.
But that is not the point...or perhaps it is. All these "this is that turn, and that is a this turn" is BS. Learn skiing fundamentals...with those you can analyse anyone, anytime, doing anything on skis. It allows you to view skiing as spectrums, and it all get clearer, and your analysis far more accurate. If you try to put everything into boxes you will end up with an infinite number of boxes (literally) because of the true spectrum nature of skiing.
Classic example the recent Cross-over vs Cross-under thread. I have alwasy struggled to see the value in these terms as this is a spectrum as well, and so many people here saw them as a this vs. that. It aint. As a result these terms or "classiifcations" didnt aid, they hindered and have many people going down the wrong path for a long time. (BB did a good post over there, and one in the Iconoclastic thread on this explaining the spectrum).
Understand what unweighting, and weighting is, understand that all turn sets need both....then its easy. The hop turn is easy to see the unweighting phase because it is so dramatic...but you also know now, that unweighting can be achieved by just rolling the skis to flat...much more efficeint...different technnqiue? Not really one is just using a more pronounced (down the spectrum) unweight then the other...likely from a strong extension (lets say his skis leave the snow by 10cm), another guy extends to unweight (and his skis leave the snow by 5cm), another guy extends to unweight (but his skis stay on the snow), another guy doesnt extend at all to unweight (and his skis stay on the snow), and another guy flexes slightly to unweight (his skis stay on the snow), another guy flexes alot to unweight (his skis stay on the snow).....
is this 9 different turns and concepts? Or one turn, one concept...just along a specturm?
Skiiing is only as complicated as we choose to make it. My advice - make it simple. It will benefit you, and your students and peers.