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Ski binding mount and its influence on performance - Once again

post #1 of 9
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Dear members of the forum,

 

I'm a long time lurker of this forum, but I write here for the second time because I've been thinking about something recently:

 

My good ol' Rossi Bandit B2 (the noodlecore ones) were recently mounted with some new bindings, but I have realized something: that the boot center mark is off 6-7mm forward from the manufacturer's recommended mounting line, as seen in the picture:

 

 

I was wondering if this is going have a negative effect on the ski's performance. From my experience with other skis, skiing 11mm behind the mark was noticeable in the sense that it was difficult to put pressure on the shovel of the skis. I know that this has been covered here before, but I'm asking this because but back then I attributed this to the lack of ramp angle of the bindings I was using (those horrible Naxo freerando ones). But recently I got into paranoid mode about this. 

 

So, what's your opinion on this? Is remounting the toe pieces is out of question since the holes are going to be too close to each other?  Will the difference be negligible or noticeable in your experience? Or maybe should I stop thinking things too much given the fact that I'm not Bode Miller?

 

Thanks in advance :)

post #2 of 9

 Hello and welcome!

 I'm not a bindings guru so I can only suggest what I would do in these circumstances.

 I'd take them back to the shop and ask the ski tech to take a look.

 If these skis have been mounted with diff bindings previously (sounds like it from your post) it might be that because you don't want screw holes within 10mm of the old screw holes that they thought there was the best fit for the mounting point or they may compromise the integrity of the ski structure. (if so they should have explained or checked with you unless you made a comment like "please re mount these wherever you think best")

 It could be that having measured your ski carefully twice that the ski tech found the manufacturers mount point was a little off and in fact your duly diligent ski tech did exactly the right thing.

 Or could be the ski tech had a hangover and was sloppy in which case I'd hope either they will remount for free (providing it is safe to drill more holes in an acceptable position) and give you a bit of shop credit for the money you've spent (and maybe a free edge and wax if the shop is thinking ahead and wants to keep your custom) or replace the ski like for like or value for value if it is damaged irretrievably.

 I'm sure there are people on here with far greater knowledge of this subject and their view might be different. This is just my chain of thought on the subject. Good luck.

post #3 of 9
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Originally Posted by Sapelli View Post

 

My good ol' Rossi Bandit B2 (the noodlecore ones) were recently mounted with some new bindings, but I have realized something: that the boot center mark is off 6-7mm forward from the manufacturer's recommended mounting line....

 

... should I stop thinking things too much ...

 

 

You should. But if you have spare time and want to be confused even more, read this:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/92938/binding-mount-position-is-99-of-ski-performance

 

roflmao.gif

post #4 of 9

It will depend somewhat on how you primarily ski.  If what you do mostly or entirely is ski groomers turn initiation will be a bit easier and quicker.  With a 78mm waist you're probably not skiing a lot of powder but if you were the tips might be prone to diving a bit more than if the bindings were mounted on center.  Mostly I wouldn't worry about it.

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Originally Posted by lilywhite View Post

 Or could be the ski tech had a hangover and was sloppy

Thanks for the long answer, lilywhite. 

 

The funny thing is that... well, that hangovered and sloppy tech was... ME! After some "professional" faulty mountings that I had seen, I finally decided to try mounting them on my own with some old skis. The funny thing is that I had tried before several times with a 2by4, with different sole lenghts. I went for a coffee, and when I came back I mounted my bindings with the wrong template! So out of all the things that could have gone wrong, the silliest one happened!

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Originally Posted by cfr View Post

 

You should. But if you have spare time and want to be confused even more, read this:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/92938/binding-mount-position-is-99-of-ski-performance

 

roflmao.gif

Yep, I saw that and well... confused me even more, and that's why I wrote this new message smile.gif

 

So I guess that I won't think too much about it and just ski. Thanks all for the answers :)

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rolleyes.gifsmile.gif

post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by Sapelli View Post

 

The funny thing is that... well, that hangovered and sloppy tech was... ME! After some "professional" faulty mountings that I had seen, I finally decided to try mounting them on my own with some old skis.  I went for a coffee, and when I came back I mounted my bindings with the wrong template! 

The tech owes you new skis, accept nothing less!!!!

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

The tech owes you new skis, accept nothing less!!!!

Seriously. Sue the bastard. 

post #9 of 9

put him on the rack!

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