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post #31 of 53
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Originally Posted by SpikeDog View Post

I'm not being sarcastic - I just don't see the 'issue' here.  It's actually rather creepy, like the cover of a Steve King novel.  Something you'd see on the way to the Dark Tower.....

 

1000

This is not the same graphic as I have previously seen for the VJJ, whilst I can't say I like it it is not offensive to me and the VJJ looks like V and 2 checks/ticks so I could actually get over it if I wanted that type of ski.

post #32 of 53
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I am tired of the general coarsening in our (America's) conversation ... it celebrates small-mindedness over intellect; and it breeds more ignorance.

+1

post #33 of 53
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Originally Posted by SpikeDog View Post

Like most dirty old men, I immediately googled VJJ to see what all the fuss is about.  Sorry, I just don't see the furburger.  It must be very abstract.

 

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Here you go.  I believe the 2012 model is the one we were discussing on skidiva.

VJJ!ARMA0-3172.jpg

 

post #34 of 53

I don't see an issue with the graphics for either the 2012 or 2013 version.  Weird graphics?  Sure, but not offensive.....or am I missing something? 

post #35 of 53
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

I don't see an issue with the graphics for either the 2012 or 2013 version.  Weird graphics?  Sure, but not offensive.....or am I missing something? 

The difference between early middle age and late middle age is that in the first instance one wonders if s/he is missing something, and in the second instance one knows s/he is missing something ... all the time.
post #36 of 53

I've always chuckled at the VJJ name, but at the same time I've thought it probably doesn't appeal to too many in the target market, and here we are. I have a personal issue with the Bonafide's name, reason I haven't tried them, but that is a personal issue not to push off onto Blizzard. So If a ski or a ski's name doesn't fit, find something else, like the OP was trying to do before the thread got hijacked into silliness. Just MHO...

post #37 of 53

I just bought my daughter a pair of K2 Gotbacks, womens version of the Coomback. The more I researched them, I am thinking of getting a pair of Coombacks when it time to replace my Atomic Sugar Daddys. Anyway, a very good all mountain ski with the width to be good in powder. Every review I can find on them is good-great, even good in the bumps. 

 

 

http://k2skis.com/skis/adventure/gotback-1213

 

http://www.wildsnow.com/5093/k2-gotback-ski-review/

post #38 of 53

Still looking - Saw these today on TGR

4frnt CRJ 130/118/128 powder/allmountain $325 no bindings

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/253799-FS-172cm-4frnt-CRJs-325-shipped

post #39 of 53
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the help. I've been researching and researching. The more I read, the more I just think I loved that VJJ and want something like it. Law of primacy or something. A lot of the skis I'm seeing don't have as aggressive tail rocker. I just loved how easy they were to turn, but let me stay on a longer ski with my moderate skills. I think I'll probably keep the burning luv's in case the snow is really packed. And then also I still want to get a slightly too fat, slightly too powder biased aggressively twin rockered ski. 

 

Short list

JJ or VJJ

S7

 

Not sure the tail is rockered enough, still researching

Blizzard Samba

Rockette 115

Roxy Mumbo Jumbo

112 RP/Yvette (probably not in my price range)

 

If I decide to step down one:

S3

Blizzard Crush

 

Blizzard Bushwacker/Black Pearl

 
That seem on target? Any others with the big tail rocker I'm missing? Thanks!
 
Claire
post #40 of 53

FWIW it sounds like you've thought and explored some more which is great. Any change in budget 'cause that's the next thing. The S7 is the most common so it shouldn't be too tough to find a used pair. They have been around a while and haven't changed (I think). I will contiue to keep an eye out.

post #41 of 53
Thread Starter 

Nope, budget it pretty fixed. If I don't find anything, I'll just demo, but would like to avoid how long that takes to get out the door. 

 

Thanks!


Claire

post #42 of 53
Thread Starter 

I found some VJJs on eBay for $429. Maybe I'll just paint em. =-)

post #43 of 53
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Originally Posted by Claire1000 View Post

Thanks for all the help. I've been researching and researching. The more I read, the more I just think I loved that VJJ and want something like it. Law of primacy or something. A lot of the skis I'm seeing don't have as aggressive tail rocker. I just loved how easy they were to turn, but let me stay on a longer ski with my moderate skills. I think I'll probably keep the burning luv's in case the snow is really packed. And then also I still want to get a slightly too fat, slightly too powder biased aggressively twin rockered ski. 

 

Short list

JJ or VJJ

S7

 

Not sure the tail is rockered enough, still researching

Blizzard Samba

Rockette 115

Roxy Mumbo Jumbo

112 RP/Yvette (probably not in my price range) ....

 

 

 

It's the exact same as the S7.

post #44 of 53

Wait VJJ? Never heard that one before. 

 

post #45 of 53

I will second or third? The Blizzy Crush. I ski the one (mens crush), my wife the crush. She is 140lbs and skis the 170cm. Its a sweet ski for anything soft, very powder friendly flex. I am a much bigger person (and get less float) and never thought the one was not enough ski, even on 2'+ days so I doubt you would need a bigger ski. Its equally at home  in bumps, great in trees. And car hold an edge on a groomer very nicely as well. Pretty fun and versatile ski. Not the best in "serious crud" but in the inter-mountain snow-pack we don't get that type of crud as much as in the coastal areas, so its an OK compromise IMO. 

post #46 of 53
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Originally Posted by Claire1000 View Post

I found some VJJs on eBay for $429. Maybe I'll just paint em. =-)

If you buy the VJJ's I'll send you some EpicSki Stickers to put over the name. biggrin.gif

 

If you really want to paint them, you can get a few ideas here

Paint your skis ? - EpicSki

 

Or, shoot bumpfreaq a PM.  He's become a pro at painting his ski gear. 

post #47 of 53
As Segbrown says, the Mumbo Jumbo is exactly the same ski as the S7w. Rossignol/Roxy are one and the same. no idea why they felt the need to put out another version, though the bright graphics offer another option,
I suppose. FWIW I ski the S7 and although I do own carvers, tend to leave them at home most days. I find it versatile enough for what I want.
post #48 of 53
Thread Starter 

Did they get rid of the Blizzard Crush? What replaced it? 

post #49 of 53

They fazed out the IQ line, which included the Crush when they came out with the Flip Core series, which is where the Samba and Dakota came in. 

post #50 of 53
Thread Starter 

Ah ha. Been reading a little on those and it looks like they may be more advanced/less forgiving than the Crush/One. Anyone with experience on that?

 

I think I'm now leaning to go one step skinner than the VJJ, but having problems comparing the S3, Crush/One, Aura, and Wailer/Nina 99. The folks at DPS on the phone said just to go with the Wailer 105. Any experience/tips welcome!

 

And, fun news for me, got a bonus at work, so budget is much bigger now, but I'd much rather get used skis and use it on something else.

 

Snow!

 

Claire
 

post #51 of 53
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Originally Posted by Claire1000 View Post

Ah ha. Been reading a little on those and it looks like they may be more advanced/less forgiving than the Crush/One. Anyone with experience on that?

 

I think I'm now leaning to go one step skinner than the VJJ, but having problems comparing the S3, Crush/One, Aura, and Wailer/Nina 99. The folks at DPS on the phone said just to go with the Wailer 105. Any experience/tips welcome!

 

And, fun news for me, got a bonus at work, so budget is much bigger now, but I'd much rather get used skis and use it on something else.

 

Snow!

 

Claire
 

The Samba is pretty forgiving, but it doesn't really reward you unless you ski it well.  IMHO one of if not THE best option for a one ski quiver for women. 

 

The S3 is also good in this "step down" category.

The Aura is a bit stiff for the needs you're describing, and the Nina99 is fun, but you may as well get the Yvette if you're getting the Nina99.  I've skied both and thought the Yvette and Nina were both fun but the Yvette has a bigger sweet spot over all but the 99 is better in moguls than the Yvette.  I don't have experience with the 105. 

post #52 of 53
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Originally Posted by Claire1000 View Post

Ah ha. Been reading a little on those and it looks like they may be more advanced/less forgiving than the Crush/One. Anyone with experience on that?

 

I think I'm now leaning to go one step skinner than the VJJ, but having problems comparing the S3, Crush/One, Aura, and Wailer/Nina 99. The folks at DPS on the phone said just to go with the Wailer 105. Any experience/tips welcome!

 

And, fun news for me, got a bonus at work, so budget is much bigger now, but I'd much rather get used skis and use it on something else.

 

Snow!

 

Claire
 

 

Hmmm, I'll try to describe. I've owned the Aura (177) and the Crush (177), and loved them both. I've also skied both the Samba and Bonafide in 173. Have not skied the S3 or Nina 99, but once owned an S7 and currently own a Wailer 112. My son had the S3s a few years ago. ANYway .... the Aura is the most traditional of all of them. (Mine were pre-early rise, so I don't know how they are doing it now.) S3 probably the softest, better for slower speeds, but still very versatile. The Crush is similar but a little stiffer, has a higher end than the S3, I think. Samba/Bonafide probably a little stiffer yet, at least they are better on hard snow than the previous two. Not quite as soft snow biased as the Crush, but still perform beautifully -- I skied the mildly softer Samba in very deep snow, and they were great, didn't dive on me or anything. 

 

I can't say about the 99 ... i would definitely definitely demo before outlaying cash on this, as I've heard both good and not as good things about it. But my 112 is awesome fun, so if it's anything like that, it's a good choice. If you're spending a lot of time in trees and moguls, Crush or S3 is probably the way to go; if you aren't, maybe the Samba or Aura. 

 

Honestly, it's hard to go wrong these days. 

post #53 of 53
Thread Starter 

Wow super awesome. Thanks. But now you're talking me into leaning back to a Yvette (I meant wailer 112/yvette earler, not the 105). I'm worried they will be too thick, but the DPS guys and others say they aren't. 

 

Glad CO finally got some snow last night!

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