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Am I on the right GS ski.

post #1 of 10
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I recently bought a used pair of rossi FIS GS skis. They are the 9x model 184cm with 23m radius. I got a good deal on them and thought they would be good as a beer league race ski. 

I'm 6 foot and ~220 pounds, i consider myself an expert skier. Defiantly a technical skier, just got my PSIA 3 two years ago. I've never been much of a racer though, I just never spent much time in gates.

so now to the question....A friend of mine suggested that these are too short for me and are in fact a junior race ski. He thought they were more suited to someone half my size. Again he doesn't have a race background either, but i respect his opinion as an instructor.

 

So did i buy wrong? are these going to be significantly to short, soft, etc? 

I would love to hear some racers opinions. 

post #2 of 10

This is the women's ski from ... several years ago. If I remember correctly, this model is from the era of rossis that are incredibly soft (I think when rossis began to stiffen up a few years ago they dropped the 9X name) - might be an issue at your size, but you have to ski on them to really find out. If I'm wrong about the model, I apologize, someone more familiar with Rossi product might be of more help.

 

It's not a junior ski (typically "junior" skis top out at ~175), but rather the full on women's ski. The length is about right for a beer league ski (assuming "beer league" implies a set somewhere between a true GS and a SL) - but again, the "proper" length depends on your technique, the set, and the hill. Depending on the typical set / terrain of a beer league course, the best ski for you might be a cheater in the 178 range with a radius in the high teens. "Beer League" sets vary from resort to resort from super slaloms with ~15-17m between gates to full on GS sets with anywhere from 22 - 30m spacing. It's really hard to say what's best for your particular setup without knowing more about the league.

 

If you were getting a GS ski for Masters racing, this ski would still probably be the right size, though I'd question the age and flex pattern. Without seeing you ski, it's hard to say whether a men's FIS ski (187-193 / 27m) would be right for you.

 

I'd be more worried about the flex than anything else - it's a very soft ski to begin with, and we don't know how much it's been skied in the past.
 

post #3 of 10

Yah!

Those skis are terrible.

How much do you want for them?

post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by bruins14sammy View Post

This is the women's ski from ... several years ago. If I remember correctly, this model is from the era of rossis that are incredibly soft (I think when rossis began to stiffen up a few years ago they dropped the 9X name) - might be an issue at your size, but you have to ski on them to really find out. If I'm wrong about the model, I apologize, someone more familiar with Rossi product might be of more help.

It's not a junior ski (typically "junior" skis top out at ~175), but rather the full on women's ski. The length is about right for a beer league ski (assuming "beer league" implies a set somewhere between a true GS and a SL) - but again, the "proper" length depends on your technique, the set, and the hill. Depending on the typical set / terrain of a beer league course, the best ski for you might be a cheater in the 178 range with a radius in the high teens. "Beer League" sets vary from resort to resort from super slaloms with ~15-17m between gates to full on GS sets with anywhere from 22 - 30m spacing. It's really hard to say what's best for your particular setup without knowing more about the league.

If you were getting a GS ski for Masters racing, this ski would still probably be the right size, though I'd question the age and flex pattern. Without seeing you ski, it's hard to say whether a men's FIS ski (187-193 / 27m) would be right for you.

I'd be more worried about the flex than anything else - it's a very soft ski to begin with, and we don't know how much it's been skied in the past.

 

*2. B14S summed it up well.
post #5 of 10

On a related content, do GS skis (or any skis in particular) "go bad" if they are several years old?  I still have an old pair of GSX race skis (the super narrow 62mm skis from about 2004) in 182cm that I was considering mounting and having fun on. They have been sitting in my garage for all this time. Aside from the bases being dry, any potential issues? I don't want them to fold in half at 50mph!  I have skied old skis, which felt soft, but obviously, I am going to be pushing a race GS ski a bit harder. 

 

Scott

post #6 of 10

Modern laminates do not fatigue easily unless they are flexed beyond reasonable limits.

IMO...except for bumps, big hucks and point load flexing by hand...not many of us can load a ski enough to fatigue it.

My 10 yo Volkl RaceTigers have seen plenty of runs but they still seem fine to me.

Maybe a pro level athlete can ski the life out of a ski but unless you are 200#+..forget about it!

I think this is one of the biggest myths in the ski business.

Heat and humidity will do them in!

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Originally Posted by dakine View Post

Modern laminates do not fatigue easily unless they are flexed beyond reasonable limits.

IMO...except for bumps, big hucks and point load flexing by hand...not many of us can load a ski enough to fatigue it.

My 10 yo Volkl RaceTigers have seen plenty of runs but they still seem fine to me.

Maybe a pro level athlete can ski the life out of a ski but unless you are 200#+..forget about it!

I think this is one of the biggest myths in the ski business.

Heat and humidity will do them in!

I did have a customer put about 100 days on an old Elan 666.  He is a big guy, over 200lbs, and his skis were dead! No life, no rebound left.  So, it can happen, but only with lots of use!

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post

On a related content, do GS skis (or any skis in particular) "go bad" if they are several years old?  I still have an old pair of GSX race skis (the super narrow 62mm skis from about 2004) in 182cm that I was considering mounting and having fun on. They have been sitting in my garage for all this time. Aside from the bases being dry, any potential issues? I don't want them to fold in half at 50mph!  I have skied old skis, which felt soft, but obviously, I am going to be pushing a race GS ski a bit harder. 

 

Scott

 

In 2009 I bought the 2003 Elan GSX.  It was brand new; never had bindings mounted and still had the sticker on the base stating to tune it before skiing.  I called Elan and they said they don't go bad in the shop and they were still under warranty (1 yr from date of purchase).  I don't ski them all the time but enough to enjoy them and appreciate them.  I let a friend borrow them last year for a race and he loved them too.  Not bad for a ten year old pair of skis.

post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post

On a related content, do GS skis (or any skis in particular) "go bad" if they are several years old?  I still have an old pair of GSX race skis (the super narrow 62mm skis from about 2004) in 182cm that I was considering mounting and having fun on. They have been sitting in my garage for all this time. Aside from the bases being dry, any potential issues? I don't want them to fold in half at 50mph!  I have skied old skis, which felt soft, but obviously, I am going to be pushing a race GS ski a bit harder. 

Scott

They will be fine Scott. One thing to remember. To get that ski to work well, you need to mount about 1-1.5 inches forward! If ypu are using the elan plate on it, get the toepiece about as far forward on the plate as you can. Otherwise it is like a 2x4

IIRC mule skis kids found the same thing on elan
post #10 of 10

Like any kind of racing, the last 10% comes from conditioning and setup.

I have always been amazed at how easy it is to ride windsurfing equipment that has been dialed in by a pro.

Every little thing adds up and when it all comes together it is magic.

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