Originally Posted by dawgcatching
Yeah, but bikes don't get the "new and improved" treatment every year. Plus, a good road bike is still worth 50-60% of retail 5 years down the line. Hard to say that about any ski I know of! Not to mention you can ride your bike year round, and it is much easier to get a quick 1 hour ride in at lunch than a quick 1 hour ski session, unless you work at the hill! I can't save $10/day in gas by commuting on my alpine skis either. I do think bikes offer a great value, but no, $5000 isn't required. They make a non-HM version of the EVO now that starts at around $3k! I do a ton of my riding on my fixie, which cost me all of $400, and would still probably not trade it for any pair of skis on offer. It is just too much fun, and riding for 12 months a year trumps skiing for 5, if I could only pick one. Going back to the original remark by Mac, bikes must have real value, hence the high resale. Resale is crap for skis, so what does that tell you? Everyone is willing to pay a whole lot for the latest and greatest, and nobody wants a used pair. Therefore, they must really be good if a ski loses 75% of it's value after being skied 10 days. So, either people are seeing latest and greatest as worth a huge price premium, and see that road bikes don't change much from year to year and are willing to pay alot for used, or something else is happening. It is worthy of a debate, but yeah, big thread drift!
Just want to get in my two cents in on this skis verses bikes thing (two of my favorite subjects), based on my experience. Last year I sold a carbon fiber road bike in good shape that I had ridden for six seasons. By the time I made some concessions for shipping and packaging fees, I got about 45% of what I paid for it in 2005, and the guy was happy to get it. Late last season, I bought a pair of the Head Peak 84's. Put about five days on them. Let's say the retail price on the skis was $899.00. At the end of the season, it's not hard to find skis for 50% off retail. So someone could have owned the same skis for $450. If I tried to sell the pair I have now, even though they only have 5 days on them and are in terrific shape, I'd be lucky to get $350 for them. By contrast, last year I also bought a new leftover roadbike at the end of the riding season. Retail price was $3,700, I ended up paying the closeout price of $3,225. Far cry from the 50% off that you'd pay for a pair of skis. No one in my neck of the woods is selling quality road bikes for 50% off retail. The very best deal I ever got on a new bike was when I bought my last mountain bike. I got $1000 off the price of a leftover model that retailed for $2500. But not too many people buy a couple of bikes every year like I've been known to do with skis. When you can buy skis dirt cheap at the end of the season, it drives the price of used stuff down even further. Has nothing to do with the longevity of the skis themselves. People usually either outgrow them, get bored with them, or talk themselves into thinking that this year's model is that much better than the ones that they've got. But it's seldom because they wear them out. By contrast, you seldom see big discounts on road bikes. As Dawg said, it was hard for most shops to keep the Cannondale Six One in the store, they couldn't get them fast enough, so you know those babies were going out the door at pretty close to full retail. Most people will think long and hard about shelling out the kind of dough that a quality road bike will set you back, while you're talking far less for a decent pair of skis. Times being what they are, it's hard for the working stiff with a family to shell out $3000-5000 for a new bike. But if you can find a decent one that's five years old for half the price, well, that becomes very appealing to an avid cyclist on a budget. You can walk into any early season ski swap and find hundreds, if not thousands of new and used skis to choose from, but it's nowhere near as easy to come across a deal on a high end bike.I don't think it all boils down to the overall quality of a bike or ski, the overall quality of both is mostly very high these days. I think it's more of a case of supply and demand, and what the market dictates.