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Breckenridge or Vail

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i figured I'd start a new thread on my Colorado trip plans, the other one here, http://www.epicski.com/t/114653/colorado-thanksgiving-trip which was labeled thanksgiving trip, is no longer a thanksgiving trip. we are planning on march 4Th, for 5 nights, i have been focusing on Vail for the most part, but the longer you sit in front of your computer the more options you find. i started looking at breck, and I'm finding a few more places to stay that are ski in-ski out that is in our price range. can you guys list a few pros and cons of each.

post #2 of 19

Breckenridge Pro's:

Better town

Better access to other resorts

 

Vail Pro's:

Better hill

Lower altitude

 

If you're only going to go to one resort, don't do Breckenridge.  If you're going to mix it up, and altitude is not an issue, go to Breckenridge.

post #3 of 19

This is your first trip to the West?

 

It's not even worth discussion. Vail should be your 1st choice for quick access from Denver. You're whole family will be drooling for the entire trip. It's one hell of a mountain. It's almost overwhelming the first time you're there, I really can't explain how big the place is. From Cascade Village to Outer Mongolia Bowls its 6 miles across. Folks ski there 100 days a year and find something new every day.

 

Breck is half the size of Vail, can be much colder and the crowds are bad, really bad. The only thing Breck has on Vail is the town (awesome!) and the high alpine/expert terrain, but if you've never been anywhere outside the Midwest, you'll be challenged very quickly! Enjoy your trip.

post #4 of 19

Lots and lots and lots of threads on this subject. Try s.e.a.r.c.h and you will be rewarded.

post #5 of 19
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This is your first trip to the West?

It's not even worth discussion. Vail should be your 1st choice for quick access from Denver. You're whole family will be drooling for the entire trip. It's one hell of a mountain. It's almost overwhelming the first time you're there, I really can't explain how big the place is. From Cascade Village to Outer Mongolia Bowls its 6 miles across. Folks ski there 100 days a year and find something new every day.

Breck is half the size of Vail, can be much colder and the crowds are bad, really bad. The only thing Breck has on Vail is the town (awesome!) and the high alpine/expert terrain, but if you've never been anywhere outside the Midwest, you'll be challenged very quickly! Enjoy your trip.

Yes never been out of Wisconsin/ Michigan/ Illinois skiing
post #6 of 19

haven't been to either, but based on what I know, I would go to Vail over almost anywhere.

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haven't been to either, but based on what I know, I would go to Vail over almost anywhere.

 

Then you need to know a LOT more. Vail's a very large intermediate geared hill. It's OK, but expensive and a bit of a PITA to get around if you don't know where you're going. I MUCH prefer Beaver Creek, Keystone of Stemboat if I'm in CO, but again, a quick review of older threads will tell you why.

 

Breck bores the crap out of me. So much space, so little challenge. The town is the only thing it's got going for it.

post #8 of 19

I would love to go to those others too!!! But all I need to do (as an intermediate skier) is look at Vail's trail map to know that I'm simply not going to get bored there, no matter how many days I ski.

 

It all depends on what is most important to you, I guess.

post #9 of 19
If you're going to fly/drive to Summit County or Vail/Beaver Creek, and if you're going to stay five nights, I'd get lodging in Frisco/Silverthorne/Dillon and spend a day at Keystone, a day a Breck, a day at Copper and a day or two at Vail/Beaver Creek. Your lodging won't be slopeside, but it also won't be the largest part of your budget. And you'll get a full taste of Colorado's offerings.
post #10 of 19
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Then you need to know a LOT more. Vail's a very large intermediate geared hill. It's OK, but expensive and a bit of a PITA to get around if you don't know where you're going. I MUCH prefer Beaver Creek, Keystone of Stemboat if I'm in CO, but again, a quick review of older threads will tell you why.

 

Breck bores the crap out of me. So much space, so little challenge. The town is the only thing it's got going for it.

It's clear that you don't know Breck.  Not enough challenge?  How about the Lake Chutes, Eye of the Needle, Magic Carpet, Sadies, Arte's Bowle, Y Chutes, Lulu's, or any of about 20 other named runs that are over 40 degrees?  Want trees?  How about Windows, The Burn, Tiger Trees, Bong Alley, or a dozen other spots? Breck has a lot of intermediate terrain as well and if you don't know the mountain, it's easy to presume that that's all there is, but it definitely has challenge. 

 

Mike

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It's clear that you don't know Breck.  Not enough challenge?  How about the Lake Chutes, Eye of the Needle, Magic Carpet, Sadies, Arte's Bowle, Y Chutes, Lulu's, or any of about 20 other named runs that are over 40 degrees?  Want trees?  How about Windows, The Burn, Tiger Trees, Bong Alley, or a dozen other spots? Breck has a lot of intermediate terrain as well and if you don't know the mountain, it's easy to presume that that's all there is, but it definitely has challenge. 

 

Mike

 

I think we've been through this before. In any case, if you look REALLY hard you can find something, but as a value proposition of size versus challenge, Breck isn't in the playbook versus the other joints. I mean, no one will ever put Breck on their top 10 (top 20?) list of challenging areas in NA, whereas some of the other Front Range areas could be contestants or even finalists.

 

Take the opposite extreme, (Front Range areas), and look at A-basin. Little size, lotsa challenge. Breck just isn't my cup of tea considering all the (better) places to go in the same general vicinity.

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Well, if the midwest areas did not freeze you out, Brekkie's jetstream blast might not get to you.

 

March is a good month snowise wherever you go in Colorado.  

 

Altitude troubles are far likelier at the Breck, Vail while a bit duller will provide a complete resort experience without AMS headaches and extremely cold jet stream wind.

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I think we've been through this before. In any case, if you look REALLY hard you can find something, but as a value proposition of size versus challenge, Breck isn't in the playbook versus the other joints. I mean, no one will ever put Breck on their top 10 (top 20?) list of challenging areas in NA, whereas some of the other Front Range areas could be contestants or even finalists.

 

Take the opposite extreme, (Front Range areas), and look at A-basin. Little size, lotsa challenge. Breck just isn't my cup of tea considering all the (better) places to go in the same general vicinity.

Fine.  Breck isn't your cup of tea.  I get that.  Have you skied Breck since the Imperial chair went in to provide access to the top of Peak 7 and 8?  I'm not sure what you find more challenging at the Basin than you do at Breck, however.  I ski both, and probably have more than 150 days between them.  I haven't found any terrain at the Basin that is more challenging than what you can find at Breck.  And the quantity of challenging terrain is certainly higher at Breck.

 

Personally, I wouldn't put any of the Front Range ski areas in the top 10 for challenging terrain.

 

Mike

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Personally, I wouldn't put any of the Front Range ski areas in the top 10 for challenging terrain.

 

That's why I said "whereas some of the other Front Range areas could be contestants or even finalists." Meaning A-Basin or Mary Jane could be contestants.

post #15 of 19

I`d go to Vail if you can find lodging that you like within your budget.  

 

OTOH, Breck is very popular with a good town and plenty of easy blues and might be easier to get a lodging deal.  (There are also some nice steeps, but these are a definite jump up and not what you said you were looking for in other posts).  Breck does have more ski in/out than Vail but there is some that might be ski in but with a walk out so check carefully.

post #16 of 19
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That's why I said "whereas some of the other Front Range areas could be contestants or even finalists." Meaning A-Basin or Mary Jane could be contestants.

Never mind.

post #17 of 19
I guess everybody is entitled to their opinion but honestly I find it interesting when vacation skiers will say that Vail or Brec offer mostly unchallenging boring skiing. I have seen IMHO a good number of excellent skiers looking anything but bored at Vail. I won't , can't ski the terrain my friend's 20 something boys ski over in Blue Sky Basin. But consider the source. I admit I am happy making turns all the way down the frontside. Could ski RIva for hours Bumps at mid Vail are very enjoyable. I even spotted that "hack" Wayne Wong skiing bumps on Zot and he lOOKrd like he was enjoying it.
post #18 of 19

I just logged onto this site after being away from it for over a year (injured), and was planning MY Colorado ski trip, a little earlier than yours (like January), when it is butt cold - last time there I don't think it got in double digits as a high on the base of the mountain, which meant not many skiers on such daze - superior gloves and both hand and toe warmers I found out were a must (I got moderate frostbite on day one).  I usually do Beaver Creek/Vail together for 5 days, weekdays only.   This is a whole bunch of hill.   If you are there for the first time you probably won't be able to ski little more than half of both mountains in that period.  On mountain food a plus at BC - fancy game BBQ, prime rib, and so forth. 

 

I don't bother with ski in/out or car rentals.   I Would rather have more space and pay alot less for it, a little farther away and get up 1/2 hour earlier, take the bus (service is good, free within Avon, nominal to Vail; unloads close to the lifts), and the stuff next to the resorts is, well- more than a little uppity/cheesy for me.    Lugging the gear on the bus is a small chore if you aren't used to it, but I'm not the only one who does it.   I usually take the first ride from Avon to Vail at about 7:30 AM and have breakfast somewhere around Lionshead waiting for first chair.  Now you're getting me stoked.

post #19 of 19

For a bunch of reasons, I think Breck can be a better fit for someone who has not been to Colo. before.  Fact is, you won't go wrong with either Vail or Breck...particularly if you're an average-advanced skier. If you are an advanced expert, you may want to try several mountains on your trip....better yet, got to Wyoming, Utah or Montana :)  Having said all that, March at Breck can mean bigger lines with spring break kids.  Keep that in mind.  (p.s. I'm in Colo and on multi day trips, I almost always stay at Breck....it's more fun and the prices are often much more reasonable.)

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