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Hey guys!

 

I am new here, so I hope this will be the correct spot find help for skis. I am 17 years old and I am from the Netherlands, Europe. I usually go skiing in Switzerland, in the Alps. Ever since I could walk, I have skied and the over the years I did learn to master my skis pretty well, although there still is enough room for improvement. I mainly ski 'on-piste' and some off-piste where possible, with some bumps here and there. This is why is definitely want to go for all-mountain skis. My weight is 150 lbs (68kg) and I am 6' 0'' tall (183cm). I have had my grow spurt, but I expect to grow slighty towards 6' 1'' (185cm) and hit the 165lbs (75kg).

 

I have been reading several reviews and my interest fell upon the following skis: The Blizzard Bonafide, The Blizzard Bushwacker, The Atomic Theory and the Salamon Rocker 2 90

 

Of course the Blizzard Bonafide is most interesting, since any website will give it 5/5 and everyone loves it, I just have my question marks towards the weight of the ski, since I am rather tiny. I found a similar topic (http://www.epicski.com/t/114819/help-choosing-the-right-all-mountain-skis-for-me), but his situation is just a bit different, so I hope you guys also have some advice for me?

 

Thanks!

Wouter

post #2 of 11

 Hi and welcome, other people will have better advice than I am in able to give but your in good company and the correct forum.

post #3 of 11

Welcome to Epic. Since you state you ski on-piste, I think you would be better off with a ski that is 85-90mm at the waist, with camber and some early rise(rocker) in the tip.  There are a lot of very good skis in that group including the Bushwacker, Nordica Steadfast, Line Prophet(twin tip), Elan Apex, Rossignol Experience 88, Salomon Rocker 2 90(twin tip).  I think the Atomic is too wide for what you want, although others may well disagree.  I use the Steadfast as  my usual ski.  It has excellent edge grip and very quick and responsive in the trees and chutes that I usually ski.  At your height I would recommend something about 180-185cm.  All of these skis will ski a bit shorter than their actual length due to the early rise and/or twin tip design.  Any of these will be a very good choice for what you want to do.

 

Make sure you have boots that fit well since they are the most important piece of gear you will acquire for skiing.

post #4 of 11

^^^^ What he said. You're not small, I think you mean light. But I'm 183 cm, 75 kg,  have skied Europe enough to respect the variable groomers with stiff bumps that can occur between storms. Not for a 98 mm ski. At your weight and size, a 180 Bushwacker would be great, super versatile and loves bumps or trees; the similar Steadfast also very nice, will be stiffer, livelier, maybe a bit better on ice or at speed, not quite as easy in tight places. Personally I think a lot of the Elan Apex, nice damp race-like all around if you ski fast. The Experience 88 seems very popular if you want a smooth, slightly more forgiving ride that can do well everywhere. Not sure I agree about the Sollies, only because not convinced based on their lineage that they can carve when pushed. You might also look into the Blizzard 8.5 if you want something with the brand's flipcore feel, but a somewhat stronger on-piste ski than the Bushwacker. The Dynastar Outland 87 would probably also fit your needs well, seems like a slightly stronger and slightly more versatile version of the E88. Lot of really nice 85-90 mm skis out there.

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Hi guys! Thanks for the fast reponses! I have been checking out all the skis mentoined, unfortunately some of them are completely unavailable anywhere in Europe. Also after grabbing my old ski's from the basement, I found out my Head Xenon Ti 6.0 are only 73cm, so going +90cm is not so smart. Thus I have 4 pairs of ski's left which fit in the budget and are available: Nordica Steadfast, Blizzard Bushwacker, Line Prophet 90, Salomon Rocker 2 90. Now comes the difficult part: what ski to choose.

post #6 of 11

Elan Apex is called Elan 888 ALU this season - same ski.

I really like mine (mounted 1cm back).

Blizzard 8.5ti could be a good choice too.

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I spent hours researching this summer and ended up buying my son the Bushwackers.  He is 15yo, 6' and about 160 lbs.  I chose the Bushwacker for its versatility.  He doesn't want to switch skis mid-day or carry a couple of pairs with him.  I liked that the Bushwackers could handle variable conditions and still be nimble and quick in the trees and the bumps.  They will handle powder way better than what he is skiing now and on a  really deep powder day, I will rent him some powder skis.  At your age, you need a good everyday ski.  Look for the most versatile for the conditions you usually ski.  It's a big investment. Demo if you can because that often saves money in the long run.

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Hi guys! Thanks for the fast reponses! I have been checking out all the skis mentoined, unfortunately some of them are completely unavailable anywhere in Europe. Also after grabbing my old ski's from the basement, I found out my Head Xenon Ti 6.0 are only 73cm, so going +90cm is not so smart. Thus I have 4 pairs of ski's left which fit in the budget and are available: Nordica Steadfast, Blizzard Bushwacker, Line Prophet 90, Salomon Rocker 2 90. Now comes the difficult part: what ski to choose.

 

For whatever it is worth, I demoed the Bushwacker, Prophet 90 and Steadfast last year and bought the Steadfasts.  I found them to be very quick and nimble in the trees, gave me good flotation and have excellent edge grip.  They're also lighter than some skis which helps with the responsiveness.  I had trouble with the Prophets being hooky at bad times and the Bushwackers just didn't do it for me.  Not every ski is for everyone.  Your own individual style of skiing will make different skis feel different.  The Steadfasts fit my style of skiing just about perfectly.

post #9 of 11

Hi Wouter0805 , plenty of good options for you from all of the gang , perhaps another ski to consider is the STOCKLI VXL . It's a great All-Mountain Ski that would serve you well in terrain you have told us you favour . You could go for the 179 length , it would have plenty of Power as Stockli's tend to Ski longer . I have some and rate them really highly . They can cope with low , medium and high speeds and hard snow , as well as soft broken snow , bumps and boot deep Fresh .

Good luck !

post #10 of 11
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Sorry for the long time off, but I have been doing some more extensive research, especially on the price point. I mailed pretty much an shop I could find in Holland to see what skis they offer at what price, and I am still awaiting the answers. Meanwhile I found a different ski than the ones I had in mind. I found the Atomic Panic ski for just €300 (!) including bindings. Does anyone have experience with it? From what I can find on the internet, it is a very decent ski, suitable for most conditions. The only concern some reviewers had, was high speeds. Problem is, apart from off-piste and doing silly things on the piste, I quite like high speeds. Would I really notice the ski giving problems at high speeds (I am considerably light for my length)?

post #11 of 11

 Hi again, if you look at the reviewers who are worried about speed performance you'll see they are all considerably heavier than you.

 Ideally you would demo a ski before buying.

 I guess at that price if you decided it wasn't for you after a week, you could ebay it for pretty much cost minus a weeks rental so in theory it wouldn't cost you anything.

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