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Hockey Day for neophytes

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Ok, so you hate hockey. You are afflicted by the american "I can't see the puck thingee" disease and miss the FOX see-through-the-boards-puck-tracer TV gizmo. You only watch quadrennially to possibly hear Al Micheals say "do you believe in Miracles!" and drown yourself in jingoistic "we got the gold" 24 hour patriotism. Today is your day!
I cannot remember a day when 3 (count'em), three game 7 Cup games will be played! Two games will be played 24 hours after the previous game 6 in the opposing city! Many of these games come after record setting multi-period overtimes! Some of these games come after teams have made up from 2 games of facing elimination! Underdogs outplaying cocky forgone conclusions! Superb goaltending from unlikely sources!
So, sports fans, watch the Kobe/Shaq made for tv drama....piss and moan about Steinbrenner...wonder why a stadium in Italy was named after Maradonna, the world's greatest p*ssy wanker...OR WATCH AN INCREDIBLY COMPELLING GAME PLAYED WITH PASSION BY INCREDIBLE ATHLETES WITH ALL THE CHIPS ON THE TABLE!!!
If you can't fall in love with this game you should be put against a convenient wall and summarily shot! (or forced to watch Mr. Personality with Ms. Lewinsky until it's inevitably predictable conclustion) Your choice.
Seriously, this will be one hell of a day for hockey fans! Go Leafs, Canucks and Wild!
post #2 of 25
QUACK!!!

robin, i think hockey is a game i could really come to appreciate but what stops me is what so many others seem to truly enjoy: the fights. otherwise, i like the speed and finesse and puck-handling and the solid, CLEAN checking.

back when i was in high school, the baseball team would run in the morning. this was back when the kings were getting l.a. hockey fans excited (this well before mr. gretzky arrived). during our repeat 220's, a few of the kings fans among us would shout out "Saaaaaaaaaaaved by Vachon." i was surprised that so many of my southern californian teammates were so hockey-knowledgeable.

could anaheim host ANOTHER world championship team?

[ April 22, 2003, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
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If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it will probably lay eggs.
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tell Detroit City that. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]

oughta see downtown 'round staples when detroit (or philly, or boston, or new york...) is in town. it's a SEA of red in the stands.

i have a buddy who gets tickets; he's teaching me a little about the game. his granddad played when masks and such were ridiculed, back in michigan, and his kid, if he sticks with it, will be in the NHL oneday.

anyway, robin, i am absolutely a hockey neophyte. and won't pretend to know more about it than i do, which ain't much. but i have found myself tuning in to sir stanley time these last couple years.

and whistler village was pretty electric when i was there and the salt lake games were going and the hockey was on. some fine times with some hammered canucks.

[ April 22, 2003, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #5 of 25
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I have been a fan all of my life. Both grandpas played pro after returning from WW I. Hockey night in Canada was a family ritual. When the Great One moved to Lotusland, I wept.
In most respects, I hate people who are purists and "back-in-the-day" types....but...I absolutely hate franchaises in places where it has never snowed with fans who are fair weather johnny come latelys. Not when the Great White can't seem to keep a team from moving to the desert. Maybe it is just my nostalgic attachment to yesteryear, when there were 6 teams, the stars weren't millionaires and played their entire career for one team.
It is a great sport. I am glad you have found it. By the way, I was definitely unbearable during the olympics!
post #6 of 25
robin, i had a hard time getting used to teams in florida and arizona, etc., but don't you think that in the end it's good for the game; that it means the sport is growing and gaining a wider audience?
post #7 of 25
Well, The Leafs turned on the juice last night!

Watching both the NBA playoff's ( a young son who is a Celtics fan) and the Cup playoff's, (flipping channels buring breaks) I say the "Fastest Game On Ice" is by far the bigger thrill. Even though my wife cringed whenever the players rattled the boards.
(There must be mics all around to capture the thunder when the players go against the boards)
I remain amazed that the "neophyte observers" don't notice how frequently all the players get on with the game, unfazed, after these "tremendous smashes".
Skating offers the greatest sense of motion and mobility to a person, all under ones own efforts of locomotion.

"Nuttin' like it! eh!

CalG
post #8 of 25
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Indeed, Cal! I think the controlled violence of the game and resultant dental deficits distracts from the awesome talent, athleticsm, fitness and durability of these athletes...hey, let Moses M. carry a weapon and dunk a frozen rubber ball with real contact! I think in basketball they should just give each team 100 points to start and the game should only be 2 minutes long...get it over with!
Ryan, I am grateful for the growth of the sport, but it dilutes the talent with so many franchaises. Kinda like baseball where a guy is a multimillionaire for pitching a losing record...just not enough talent in the world...and that does create a dump and chase game which neutralizes real talent like Lemieux (Mario not Claude) with thugism and policemen. All good games contain one short donnybrook! But, there have always been tough guys....and you got to like the hustle and hits from the Domis and Footes!
But Hockey in Florida and not in Winnepeg or Quebec City....something is wrong. Tell you what, we give back the Expos and the Jays, you guys give back the Nordiques and the Jets! I'll even toss in the Alouettes....Oaklahoma City deserves a NFL team!

[ April 22, 2003, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: Robin ]
post #9 of 25
robin, it's a deal. but first, i'd like to pick one of these "players to be named later" you can throw in

in return, i can give you michael jackson.

[ April 22, 2003, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #10 of 25
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Ryan, I will forward that link to the Av's lockeroom...they are now in the recreation mode! Damn, I like underdogs (deserved or otherwise).
Hated to see the Leafs go away, but Ty Domi and Brashear hugging at the end encapsulates everything I love about the game. It cracks me up to hear people bemoan the Leafs hard hitting, intimidating style,especially the Flyers bench! Does no one remember Dave Shultz and Moose Dupont of the 70's? The violence is an integral part of the game...unlike the latest plague of attacking pitchers in baseball.
The Canucks pulled it off again...hope they have the gas!
Now if the Quackers and Kariya can take care of that texas team!
post #11 of 25
HAHA, the Avs lost.

I've never fully recovered from the NHL uprooting the Nordiques from Quebec City to Denver -- certainly the hockey equivalent of moving dem Bums to LA -- and will always root against them, given the chance.
post #12 of 25
okay, robin, that's TWICE you've swung (and missed) at baseball as a means to support your hockey; don't make me post a baseball-for-neophytes thread.

charging the mound (and throwing at hitters) is a separate topic with a few important dynamics to consider; in other words, a separate post. i dislike that aspect of the game almost as much as i despise two guys on skates dropping the gloves while a crowd roars for blood and son looks up to dad, cheering and boozed up.

so i'm embellishing (not), but this topic WOULD, i think, warrant a separate topic.

[ April 23, 2003, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #13 of 25
Actually Robin, any insight you could lend into the role of the "enforcer" type on any hockey team would be interesting.
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FLYERS!!!
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Bobby Clarke.
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GO WILD!!!!! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

What a series! Proving once again that, in the playoffs, you only go as far as your goaltending will take you. The only thing that would have been better than this come from behind win over the Aves would be if we had pulled it off with the Dallas (formerly Minnesota North)Stars. Although we are starting to get some nice rivalries going with our Northwestern Division teams, there is still no other team that the fans in Minnesota want our team to beat than that Stars. Funny that before the playoffs started, most of us Wild fans were hoping that we would draw Vancouver or Dallas, and we didn't want to face Colorado in the first round. Worked out pretty good!
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post #18 of 25
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That article about covers it Ryan. There are other roles to be played in the "psych-ops" of hockey. As a Bantam, I was small and quick with a smart mouth. I was an "instigator" and created alot of power plays.
The role of the enforcer ironically makes the game safer. Cheap shots cannot be detered by even game misconducts. Retribution and honour do have there place on the ice. Sometimes a team needs to coalese (sp?) around a unifying and rallying cause...an unjust call etc.
Some of the best had their sting! Ask anyone who went into a corner with Howe how sharp his elbows were...he never backed down and was respected (I will never forget a guy on an opposing team who knocked the crap out of a team mate for cheap shotting Howe near the end of his career...right in the middle of the game...the ref had no idea whether a penalty had occured or not!).
post #19 of 25
Oh Tag et al., congrats to the Wild [sigh].

I just now saw this thread, since I haven't been on these boards (largely due to being preoccupied with hockey). I am an Avs fan, and I was at Games 1 AND 7, and I am definitely impressed with the Wild. I did not want to play them, although I was glad the Avs didn't have to play Anaheim (who has given the Avs fits all year long) -- it's a great sport, eh?

Most of the Avs fans I know are rooting for the Wild to keep going. I think they can be this year's Cinderella team -- do they ever make a flipping mistake??

As far as hockey and its culture in general: it's SO FAR above and beyond the other "major league" sports (football, baseball, basketball) anymore. Perhaps the expansion to nontraditional markets in the playoffs again will help spread the word. Last year you had Carolina; now there's California, Texas, and Florida (not exactly new markets, but nontraditional and large, nonetheless).
post #20 of 25
Oh Tag et al., congrats to the Wild [sigh].

I just now saw this thread, since I haven't been on these boards (largely due to being preoccupied with hockey). I am an Avs fan, and I was at Games 1 AND 7, and I am definitely impressed with the Wild. I did not want to play them, although I was glad the Avs didn't have to play Anaheim (who has given the Avs fits all year long) -- it's a great sport, eh?

Most of the Avs fans I know are rooting for the Wild to keep going. I think they can be this year's Cinderella team -- do they ever make a flipping mistake??

As far as hockey and its culture in general: it's SO FAR above and beyond the other "major league" sports (football, baseball, basketball) anymore. Perhaps the expansion to nontraditional markets in the playoffs again will help spread the word. Last year you had Carolina; now there's California, Texas, and Florida (not exactly new markets, but nontraditional and large, nonetheless).
post #21 of 25
Seg,

It was back in early spring when the Wild won back to back shutouts over the Flyers that I thought this could be a good year for the team. The joke around here goes 'The Wild are playing tonight and the score will be 2 - 1. Who are they playing? Doesn't matter. Can't say who'll win, but it'll be 2 - 1.' The Wild have made a habit of playing a lot of one goal games this year and for the first time in their short history, they are winning a fair share of them. The Vancouver series will be very tough. The 'enforcers' will be really busy!

We've been very fortunate to have great goaltending this year and Roli and Manny have done a great job in the playoffs so far. Will the glass slipper fit? Or is it meant for Anahiem this year? Dunno. Like I said earlier, even if it would be long shot of epic proportions, I'd love to see the Wild and the Stars in the conference finals.
post #22 of 25
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Originally posted by Tag:
Seg,

It was back in early spring when the Wild won back to back shutouts over the Flyers that I thought this could be a good year for the team. The joke around here goes 'The Wild are playing tonight and the score will be 2 - 1. Who are they playing? Doesn't matter. Can't say who'll win, but it'll be 2 - 1.' The Wild have made a habit of playing a lot of one goal games this year and for the first time in their short history, they are winning a fair share of them. The Vancouver series will be very tough. The 'enforcers' will be really busy!

We've been very fortunate to have great goaltending this year and Roli and Manny have done a great job in the playoffs so far. Will the glass slipper fit? Or is it meant for Anahiem this year? Dunno. Like I said earlier, even if it would be long shot of epic proportions, I'd love to see the Wild and the Stars in the conference finals.
Well, the games seemed to be 3-2 during this series! Wasn't that three in a row to close?

Min-Dallas would be incredible. But those DUCKS! They just refuse to lose ....
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Holy AFLAC Boys! These Ducks are tight! Giggy's skate save CRUSHED the Stars!
There was discussion on the tube about changing the overtime rules...are you kidding...what, something lame like an international shoot out! This overtime season rocks!
GO CANUCKS!
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M R DUCKS
C M WINGS?
WELL I B

'Hard not to like 'dem DUCKS!

CalG
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Can't quite figure out the Wild. Thought that the series with the Canucks would be a tough one with lots of bodies flying. Also thought that the Wild would start to play better AT HOME than they are. Still, all in all, when you are the 6th seed you have to be a good road team if you expect to advance! Have to keep hoping for a little more 'game 7' magic!

Can you imagine a Ducks - Wild series? Every game would probably be 1-0. The Wild ain't exactly a high-scoring team...
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