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Salomon Lord vs. Twenty Twelve vs. Line Prophet Flite

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I am new to the forum and am in the market for my first ski purchase.  Right now I'm torn between the Salomon Lord, Salomon Twenty Twelve, and Line Prophet Flite.  I'm looking for an all-mountain ski that can get me started at a reasonable price.  I can get the Lord and Flite for $300 new.  Budget is important to me.

 

I'd consider myself an intermediate skier at 5'10" 175lbs.  I stick to the groomers and like to hit the trees and powder if it's there.  I ski about 6 days a year.

 

I've come across a used pair of Twenty Twelves I might be able to get for around $300 with bindings.  Would the twenty twelve 171cm work for my size/skill level?

 

Anyone have suggestions?  How does the Twenty Twelve compare to the Prophet Flite?

post #2 of 21

I have heard good things about the 2012, bad things about the prophet flite, i have not skied either. so this is all hearsay
 

post #3 of 21
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Originally Posted by Eastcoastdad View Post

I have heard good things about the 2012, bad things about the prophet flite, i have not skied either. so this is all hearsay

 
Thanks for the input. Any idea if the Prophet 90 is better/different than the Flite?
post #4 of 21

It is but there are better ski's to be had. You should look at used demos from last year as your budget would limit you from getting any ski new that would be ideal, However If you can get a good deal on the soloman 2012 i would say pull the trigger they have been rated very well, However the 171 is prob too short for you
 

post #5 of 21
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Any suggestions that would compare to the twenty twelve? I'd like to stick to 90 under foot. Anything fatter might be too much ski for me.
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go with prophets  everytime.  if you want spend the extra bucks i would get the 90  but if not go with the flite. the 2012 seems a little sloppy/ loose. did not like 

post #8 of 21
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Thanks for all the feedback. I'm also now looking at a used demo Volkl Kendo 2011. Has anyone ridden that ski and how does it compare to the Twenty Twelve and Prophet?
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by rmontgo1 View Post

Thanks for all the feedback. I'm also now looking at a used demo Volkl Kendo 2011. Has anyone ridden that ski and how does it compare to the Twenty Twelve and Prophet?

 

That is the exact ski I use and love; It may be too much ski for you if you are just getting into the sport, if you are looking at volkls the bridge would probably be the best tool for you. Also look at Nordica Steadfast (great deals on last seasons) and blizzard bushwacker


Edited by Eastcoastdad - 11/11/12 at 5:16am
post #10 of 21

Welcome to EpicSki!  Just noticed your thread.  Where do you usually ski?  East or west coast?  You may have mentioned this elsewhere, what have you used before?  Have you been renting skis and boots?

 

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Originally Posted by rmontgo1 View Post

I am new to the forum and am in the market for my first ski purchase.  Right now I'm torn between the Salomon Lord, Salomon Twenty Twelve, and Line Prophet Flite.  I'm looking for an all-mountain ski that can get me started at a reasonable price.  I can get the Lord and Flite for $300 new.  Budget is important to me.

 

I'd consider myself an intermediate skier at 5'10" 175lbs.  I stick to the groomers and like to hit the trees and powder if it's there.  I ski about 6 days a year.

 

I've come across a used pair of Twenty Twelves I might be able to get for around $300 with bindings.  Would the twenty twelve 171cm work for my size/skill level?

 

Anyone have suggestions?  How does the Twenty Twelve compare to the Prophet Flite?

post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post


I ski out west about once a year and rent. Haven't really kept track of what I've been renting and it's been a couple years due to an ACL surgery (2nd one too).
post #12 of 21

on just about any ski you go with you should be in the 175-180 range- you might want to go bigger if you get a true twin or a ski with alot of rocker
 

post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by rmontgo1 View Post


I ski out west about once a year and rent. Haven't really kept track of what I've been renting and it's been a couple years due to an ACL surgery (2nd one too).

Welcome back to the slopes!  How many years have you been skiing?  Have you read any of the threads about ACL injury prevention exercises?

 

If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing for boots?

post #14 of 21
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Welcome back to the slopes!  How many years have you been skiing?  Have you read any of the threads about ACL injury prevention exercises?

If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing for boots?

I've been skiing about 9 years, but that only amounts to around 6 trips at 4 days of skiing per trip. That's a good suggestion about the ACL injury prevention threads. I'll check them out.

I've got a pretty good boot fitter locally so I was going to get fitted there. I was looking at the Salomon Mission Cruise but haven't tried on any yet. Any suggsion for in the $200-250 price range?
post #15 of 21

I suggest you check out the articles related to buying gear, if you haven't already:

http://www.epicski.com/atype/9/First_Run

 

A good boot fitter will get you into something that fits your budget and needs.  Early season is a good time to get set up since shops still have boots from last season around.

 

Here's a very good reference for protecting your knees, especially the ACL, when skiing:

http://www.vermontskisafety.com/kneefriendly.php

 

How much do you do for proprioception (balance) training?

post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post

I suggest you check out the articles related to buying gear, if you haven't already:
http://www.epicski.com/atype/9/First_Run

A good boot fitter will get you into something that fits your budget and needs.  Early season is a good time to get set up since shops still have boots from last season around.

Here's a very good reference for protecting your knees, especially the ACL, when skiing:
http://www.vermontskisafety.com/kneefriendly.php

How much do you do for proprioception (balance) training?
Thanks marznc. I will check out that article on protecting the ACL. And yes, I did a ton of proprioception training during my rehab and continue to do exercises related to ACL recovery when I workout.
post #17 of 21

I have never skied the twenty twelve or the prophet flites, but I do own a pair of Salomon Lord's.  I like the ski a lot.  It's a great all around ski and very stable for a ski without metal.  That really caught me by surprise.  It's good on the groomers, bumps, and some powder.  You wouldn't be disappointed with it.  It's a really good value for the money.  My dad owns a pair of Kendo's and he absolutely loves them.  The Kendo until this year was a full camber ski. Although from what i hear the rocker they added to this year's model is questionable.  My dad sticks to soley the groomers.  The Kendo is a true front side ripper.  My dad has a lot of confidence with it.  I can tell you that its very light for a metal reinforced ski.  And like a true volkl you can't beat its stability.  I can't attest to how it does in powder and crud though.  I hope this helps.   

post #18 of 21
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Thanks for all the input.  I was able to get a really good deal on a used pair of Salomon Twenty Twelves with Z12 bindings on Ebay.  Can't wait to try them out.
 

post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by rmontgo1 View Post

Thanks for all the input.  I was able to get a really good deal on a used pair of Salomon Twenty Twelves with Z12 bindings on Ebay.  Can't wait to try them out.
 

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Originally Posted by rmontgo1 View Post

Thanks for all the input.  I was able to get a really good deal on a used pair of Salomon Twenty Twelves with Z12 bindings on Ebay.  Can't wait to try them out.
 


Good decision. You'll be happy. beercheer.gif

post #21 of 21

Let us know how they work out for you. There are very few reviews of that ski to be found on this site
 

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