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Hi guys! I've found myself in big trouble and need your help. Not long ago, I have purchased a pair of brand new skis on Ebay that came with no bindings. The skis are : Salomon Tornado Ti PL 180cm. I had never purchased any skis before and had no clue that these skis have to be purchased with the binding system. I thought that I would simply buy new salomon z12 bindings and get those mounted on the skis. Well I have purchased separate bindings and went to a ski shop with them today to get them mounted.

I was explained by the ski shop technician that the salomon bindings that I had purchased would not fit on the skis. The ski shop owner tried to call Salomon and see if they could help with the bindings but Salomon said that since the skis were sold on Ebay, they would not deal with me and besides that, even if I was a legitimate ski dealer it would be almost impossible for them to find bindings for those skis!! I was shocked to say the least. I Have just learned that buying skis without bindings is like buying a left shoe without the right one.

The question that I have for you guys is what can I do in this situation. I realize that I am probably stuck with a useless pair of skis.

The ski shop technician told me that I need specific x wing System Bindings which are not easy to come by.

He also showed me another Salomon bindings: K Z11 B90. He said that these bindings would fit my skis but that they are unable to sell them to me separately, which I assume means that I would have to purchase another skis with bindings and get those installed on my Salomon Tornado Ti Pl.

 

What are your suggestions guys? Your help is greatly appreciated!!

 

P.S. I live in Northern New Jersey.

post #2 of 10

Yes, you need a specific bindings for those rails but..IIRC, this rails can be removed, screws will be under either some covers or stickers. When you do this, you will be able to mount any traditional binding on the skis. Post pic and we can confirm. This is irrelevant being from North Jersey or not.  

post #3 of 10

Was it clear on the eBay listing that bindings were NOT on the skis?  I'm not familiar with the ski, but if it was pictured WITH the binding, you might have a case to go back to eBay about it.

post #4 of 10

Bindings can be "hostage" type" meaning that there's already a receptacle mounted on the ski for a particular type of binding, which has been done by manufacturers to insist that there brands get sold together, or "flat" which means you can put any binding on a ski. 

 

What Phil is saying is that the receptacle can be removed, and then you'll have "flat" skis that any binding can be mounted on, but apparently your shop doesn't want to go that route, preferring to stick with the original intent. Sadly it's understandable as this is America, and liability issues can shut a shop in a heartbeat should anything go wrong, and who would want to even expose themselves without good reason.

post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thank you guys for your quick replies! Attached below are the skis.

 

The Ebay seller clearly stated that the skis were sold without the bindings. I simply did not realize that the rails on these skis are special and differ so much from other. I thought that buying bindings separately would suffice. I guess I was wrong. It is kind of shady though for the seller to sell skis knowing that without the original bindings they are pretty useless.

 

Philpug, the technician did say that removing the rail would be risky and that he would not attempt it. I do not know whether he said that because I did not purchase the skis from the shop and he did not want to deal with me.

 

I have boots for the skis. I have been looking for these skis for the past 12 months and could not find a pair. When I saw them on Ebay being sold from Canada in size 180 I really wanted to have them.

 

 

 

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post #6 of 10

Another option would be to see if you can buy a pair of these skis that are beat up with bindings that can be useful.  That may be a way to salvage this situation. 

 

Not ideal, but possible. 

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

These skis were only discontinued last year. I haven't seen any used ones for sale yet but I'd imagine they'd run at approx. $700 used. Brand new ones were sold at approx. $1200.

Thanks for your reply:)
 

post #8 of 10

I can relate, having bought some skis for cheap and waited for two years before I broke down and bought decent bindings for them.  These skis have been around for a while.  There is likely a range of Salomon skis over the last few years that came with bindings that can be mounted on that rail, and you should be able to find a beat up pair of skis with bindings for cheap.  Here's what I would do.

1)  Find out what bindings would fit and what skis came with those bindings.

2) Buy a used beat up pair of skis with bindings that fit, or bindings sold separately from a ski swap, craigslist or e-bay, etc.

3) use the cheap skis as  rock skis and swap the bindings back and forth

4) Avoid buying skis without bindings.


Edited by Ghost - 11/8/12 at 4:15pm
post #9 of 10
I am your huckellberry,got Z12 bindings on a pair of retired X Wings.
PM me with a # I may part with um
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

I can relate, having bought some skis for cheap and waited for two years before I broke down and bought decent bindings for them.  These skis have been around for a while.  There is likely a range of Salomon skis over the last few years that came with bindings that can be mounted on that rail, and you should be able to find a beat up pair of skis with bindings for cheap.  Here's what I would do.

1)  Find out what bindings would fit and what skis came with those bindings.

2) Buy a used beat up pair of skis with bindings that fit, or bindings sold separately from a ski swap, craigslist or e-bay, etc.

3) use the cheap skis as  rock skis and swap the bindings back and forth

4) Avoid buying skis without bindings.

 

You put a good laterally rigid binding on the ski, I bet it skis better than with the plate.

 

My 1-4...

 

1)The plate can easily be removed...even by you..if you righty..tighty...lefty...loosy.

2) Bring the skis then to a real ski shop and ask them to plug holes and

3)mount a binding of choice. 

4) Avoid buying skis that require a specific binding without that bindings. 

 

Actually, it could be worse it could be a Nordica Hot Rod XBS, Volkl AC or K2 Amp skis (system), which cannot perform w/o THEIR binding. 

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