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Best advanced 90-100mm fixed-heel binding for your knees

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Me: 5'10, 160lbs, 32, advanced to adv. intermediate, aggressive, ski anything that's not park, spend 70% off piste, don't huck, don't plan on hiking for turns in the near future. My knees aren't the strongest, so I'd like to treat them well :).


I've been skiing on Dynastar Legend 8ks with the integrated Fluid bindings - which are the Look PX12 80mm ones. I've noticed that my PX12s are not as knee-friendly as my first set of bindings (at the same DIN) which were some beginner-level Sollys. Of course, the PX12s have much more predictable and elastic retention, which is great.


I just placed an order for a set of Dynastar Legend 94 skis to replace the 8ks and need to choose the right bindings for them. Been doing some research about what's out there. Price is definitely a strong consideration, so I'm ok with last year's gear that is marked down. This also eliminates the Rossi FKS or Look Pivot lines (for example) because I'm not in a position to spend upwards of $300 on bindings right now. Otherwise, those would have been at the top of my list.


Despite the fact that I've been progressing quickly and ski aggressively, I've been keeping my bindings between 7.5 and 8.5 DIN for the last couple seasons, so a 4-12 binding is plenty for me, I suspect.


Some models that stuck out as good options (considering price as well):

- Salomon STH/Atomic FFG with a Driver toe piece (STH 12 or 14)

- Tyrolia Peak/Head Mojo (either 11, 12 or 15)

- Look PX12/Rossi Axial2 (either 120 or 140)


The Tyrolia/Head bindings seem to have a diagonal release heel piece which seems like a great idea. However, the Salomon Driver toe piece seems like a great idea for a nice secure fit on the toe. Do they also have similar release capabilities in the heel? If so, I'll definitely go for those.


Thoughts? Suggestions?

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First, you are concerned about your knees and, rightfully so, but you aren't willing to spend a few extra dollars on the bindings that you have the most confidence in? th_dunno-1[1].gif What is your insurance deductable? Past that, the bindings that you mention all have a good amount of elasticity in the toes which will allow you to run the bindings at a medium to lower DIN without risking pre release. The order that you have them would be the order I would suggest. My only knock against the last one is the higher forward pressure required to enter plus it is on the heavier side of the three. 

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Thanks for the response, Phil.


My liking of the FKS/Pivot only comes from what I read and see online. No real world experience there. I like the idea of lateral and vertical release in the toe AND heel. I think I should get similar functionality from the Head Mojo/Tyrolia Peak, correct? I just confirmed from my local store that the STH cannot release the heel laterally... so it's similar to the PX. Since I'm not one to crank down on the DIN, I feel like the Tyrolia/Head would be the right balance of considerations for me. Agree?

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Picked up 2012 Tyrolia Peak 12 bindings. $125 shipped. Let's see how this season goes :)

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FWIW.  IMHO.  I blew a knee last September; it had nothing to do with bindings, but "overuse" in backcountry skiing, climbing with crampons, and hiking and bicycling in steep terrain.  In my rehab I have learned a lot about biomechanics, the danger of being "knee dominant", and the need to stress quads and hamstring in "sitting" movements while doing any exercise.  Keeping knees behind toes and outside of the big toe and bearing the weight mid-foot to heel vs. ball of foot to toes are things to think about.  You may find snug boots and trying to pressure your ski tips by driving you knee forward my lead to knee pain or injury.  In any case, people with sensitive, sore, or injured knees can benefit greatly from consultation with a sports medicine specialist who is very knowledgeable about skiing, training for skiing, and biomechanics.  Mine had a B.S. in Kinesiology and a Ph.D. Physical Therapy and, after watching me move, measuring muscle strength, etc. etc., gave me a good variety of exercises to rehab my knees; some good videos on utube from various sports medicine clinics around the world can help you diagnose the source of your knee problems and what exercises and changes in how you move (and orthotics) might help solve them.  YMMV.


p.s.: there was a HUGE thread on this site about how bindings do not function to/can not protect knees (exc. perhaps the Knee type binding).

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