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Folks, can you help choose skis? E88? Blizz 8.5? Crimson?

post #1 of 18
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Hi everyone! Good discussions and reviews here. Can I pick your brain on new skis?

 

I'm 190lb w/o gear, 180 tall and almost 40 y/o, expert skier. Mostly ski Eastern groomers in Pocono and Vermont, once a year I get out to Austria where I do some trees, but again, mostly groomers as most friends don't do trees.

 

Prefer very aggressive GS runs if terrain and crowd permits. I have a pair of Bandit 1 for family fun and bumps, so I'm looking for the ski to satisfy my hard-charging, evil side, and maybe venture off-piste 15/20% of the time.

 

I checked out some ski stores, and got recommendations for Rossi E88 and Volkl RTM 84, but frankly I'm not ready to completely give up on camber, so the RTM is probably off the list.

 

Crimson looks promising, as well as E88 and Blizz 8.5.

 

What do you think? What would you suggest (aside from trying to demo them all)? I may be lucky to get demo one but not all of them obviously.

 

Thank you all for your expertise and time.

post #2 of 18

Your concerns on the RTM are well founded. The E88 is a great cruiser and I enjoyed it a bunch last year on hard snow and IMHO, you can't go wrong with it for the Poconos and Vermont. The 8.5Ti will have the slight advantage off piste and in the woods. 

post #3 of 18
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Thanks Philpug!

 

I read your review of E88. How are they at GS?

post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 

and, sorry, one more follow up, will 8.5 Ti have any advantage on hardpack? From what I read it may have better edge hold. thanks again.

post #5 of 18

I would rate the three you mentioned as follows:

 

Grip:  Atomic Blizzard (1) (tie), Rossi (3)

Dampening: Atomic (1), Blizzard (2), Rossi (3)

GS Carver: Atomic (1), Blizzard (2), Rossi (3)

SR Carver: Rossi (1), Blizzard (2), Atomic (3)

Moguls  Blizzard (1), Rossi (2), Atomic (3)

Soft Snow: Blizzard (1), Rossi (2) Atomic (3)

 

Pretty hard to go wrong with any of the three.

 

SJ
 

post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks so much for your help! Sounds like the Blizzard is really an excellent choice here.

 

Has someone tried them in 8.0 format? Is it a completely different animal from 8.5?  

 

Also, Nordicas Firearrow 84 EDT reviews look really promising.. a bit more expensive but appear to be a solid ski at least for the piste.

 

thanks!

post #7 of 18
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Thanks Philpug!

 

I read your review of E88. How are they at GS?

 

 

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Thanks so much for your help! Sounds like the Blizzard is really an excellent choice here.

 

Has someone tried them in 8.0 format? Is it a completely different animal from 8.5?  

 

Also, Nordicas Firearrow 84 EDT reviews look really promising.. a bit more expensive but appear to be a solid ski at least for the piste.

 

thanks!

 

The 8.0Ti is the same construction as the 8.5Ti and is just a hair quicker edge to edge and has lengths that fall just in between the 8.5, 165, 167, 172, 174, 179, 181, 8.0 in bold. The 84 EDT is indeed stellar. 

post #8 of 18
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Thanks again. I just found a wonderful review of 8.0 and 8.5. This site rocks!!! Seriously, thanks.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/110399/video-review-2013-blizzard-magnum-8-5ti-and-magnum-8-0ti

 

I'm kinda feeling good about 8.0 in 179, or 8.5 maybe in 174.. And now if I could only find 84 EDT compared to either one or both. Suspect it would be a tight race.

post #9 of 18

8.0 has a tad less rocker as well.  Not drastic but just a bit.  

 

The new Magnums do ski a little shorter than previous generation.  I unfortunately couldn't ski them last year but I put a lot of people out

on them and had lots come back for a longer length.

 

A true EDT/Magnum comparison would be between EDT and the M-Power.  That would be apples to apples.  The new M-Power is the Mag 8.5

with the suspension system.  It's a little different than the EDT system but the intended end result is the same. 

post #10 of 18

I have a personal love for the Atomic Crimson TI, have alot of the patrolers in our area rocking them as well. I did not enjoy the E88's but most of my buddies vehemently disagree with me

post #11 of 18

I have a pair of 186 2010/2011 Savage Ti's and they are amazing. Bust through crud like a tank and absolutely slay the groomers. Not bad in the deep snow but an amazing do it all ski for a heavier guy looking for one ski for everything but the real deep days.

post #12 of 18
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Thanks guys! (although maybe I shouldn't presume..).

 

Now it's just downing on me that Blizzards don't have camber? I can't find a web site that would say that flat out, but instead see a bunch of mambo about reverse pressing, or some such thing and at least according to the images it seems like a fully-rockered ski, even though it may not be done with traditional pressing technology. 

 

Again, not big on "rockering" the piste.. at least not until I try some demos first and make sure it's for me.

 

Guess I'm not really asking anything here, just that if i'm wrong about lack of camber in blizzards then do correct me.

post #13 of 18

The Blizzards have a cambered main body with a small amount of tip rise and an even smaller amount of tail rise.

 

SJ

post #14 of 18
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Hi everyone! Good discussions and reviews here. Can I pick your brain on new skis?

 

I'm 190lb w/o gear, 180 tall and almost 40 y/o, expert skier. Mostly ski Eastern groomers in Pocono and Vermont, once a year I get out to Austria where I do some trees, but again, mostly groomers as most friends don't do trees.

 

Prefer very aggressive GS runs if terrain and crowd permits. I have a pair of Bandit 1 for family fun and bumps, so I'm looking for the ski to satisfy my hard-charging, evil side, and maybe venture off-piste 15/20% of the time.

 

I checked out some ski stores, and got recommendations for Rossi E88 and Volkl RTM 84, but frankly I'm not ready to completely give up on camber, so the RTM is probably off the list.

 

Crimson looks promising, as well as E88 and Blizz 8.5.

 

What do you think? What would you suggest (aside from trying to demo them all)? I may be lucky to get demo one but not all of them obviously.

 

Thank you all for your expertise and time.

 



Hi,

 

For skiing fast, the skis I liked in that category are as follows:

 

Blizzard Magnum 8.5 ti

Kastle MX83

Kastle MX88

Elan Amphibio 88xti

 

Each of these does something different. As far as a traditional feel and power, without being demanding, the MX83 and Amphibio 88xti get the nod.  The 8.5 is stiffer and a bit more work, as is the MX88 (due it being longer). 

 

In bumps, the 88xti was the most impressive of the lot. I don't know if it was a new flex pattern, but it was really responsive, while still having all of the grip in the world on hard snow. The others are all solid too.

 

In soft snow, I didn't get enough time on the Amphibio.  The other 3 are all very good.

 

For the most GS feel, probably the Magnum 8.5ti and MX88. The other 2 feel quicker and a bit more likely to want to turn.

post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 

Wow thank you both for the feedback.

 

Funny you should mention MX83.. I was just done reading several reviews with a lot of praise for MX83.

 

did you leave FA 84 EDT because of weak off-piste performance? Other than that I kind of like what I'm hearing.

post #16 of 18
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Wow thank you both for the feedback.

 

Funny you should mention MX83.. I was just done reading several reviews with a lot of praise for MX83.

 

did you leave FA 84 EDT because of weak off-piste performance? Other than that I kind of like what I'm hearing.

Sorry, no FA 84 EDT experience.  The only Nordicas I have skied in the past year were Hell n' Back and Enforcer. Good skis.  

post #17 of 18

If you don't want to spend too much I would also look into getting last years Kendo (fully cambered) or the elan apex as a much less expensive alternative to the MX88 without IMO a compromise to performance
 

post #18 of 18
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The Blizzards have a cambered main body with a small amount of tip rise and an even smaller amount of tail rise.

 

SJ

 

Thanks Jim, I called up a store near me that has 8.5 ti.. Will check them out this weekend.

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