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Best of the bunch? Liberty, 4frnt, Icelantic

Poll Results: Which ski is best of the bunch?

 
  • 20% (2)
    Icelantic Shaman
  • 50% (5)
    4FRNT Turbo
  • 20% (2)
    Liberty Helix
  • 10% (1)
    Other
10 Total Votes  
post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

I'm 6' 230# all mountain advanced/expert skier skiing 180's range skies. I've been skiing Volkl Mantra for past few years getting some time on Rossi s7, Atomic access, K2 coomba, and Liberty Helix.

 

I'm sticking with the Mantra for my early/late season hardpack ski to power through the crud and hold the edge but I'm not sure what to get for my main go to all mtn ski.

 

I've narrowed it down to three that seem to fit the bill but not sure. Whats the best ski of the bunch? I'm skiing CO Vail/BC resorts running front side for work but back bowl trees and open pow when i get the chance.

 

Icelantic Shaman

Liberty Helix

4FRNT Turbo

 

I've been a fan of camber/rocker hybrid or a full camber ski but don't like the full rocker. I just need something that can still hold its own to get me around for front side work and back to the lifts after a steep and deep run on my free time.

 

Any advice is appreciated.

post #2 of 9

Have you tried the Rossi Super7 or the Squad 7?

 

Just wondering.  At your weight, one of those might be more appropriate than the S7.

post #3 of 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt1Mtn View Post

I'm 6' 230# all mountain advanced/expert skier skiing 180's range skies. I've been skiing Volkl Mantra for past few years getting some time on Rossi s7, Atomic access, K2 coomba, and Liberty Helix.

 

 

You really didn't say what you thought of any of these, just that you've skied them. I guess we can assume you liked it because it's on your list, but maybe flesh-out what exact qualities you like and what you don't so we can help give some suggestions.

post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 

The helix was probably the best fit overall of the skies I've been on. S7 was fun for deep, floats great, but a bit sloppy on the groomers. Access performed well across the board but not enough ski for me and a bit of chatter on hard pack.

 

Bottom line I know I like the Helix but I dont know how the others compare since I haven't had a chance to take 'em out.

post #5 of 9

I ski a helix (almost) every day in N. Vermont.  Havent skied any of the others so I can't comment on them.  But the helix is great on powder for its width.  I was at jay for the 60" inch weekend last year and the float was great. Didn't have a problem at all. That being said.  Its more of a flat bottom than a rocker-camber-rocker and it definitely skies short (im 5'8" 145lb and ski a 176).  The edge hold I didn't find great on true eastern hardpack, but hopefully you won't be encountering any of that out west.  It held fine in the softer groomers.  It seems like youve already skied all of the ones you listed, so if theres no defined winner you can't go wrong with any of them.  Last years helix can be found new really cheaply.
 

post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

Have you tried the Rossi Super7 or the Squad 7?

 

Just wondering.  At your weight, one of those might be more appropriate than the S7.

No haven't been on either. And I'm a bit limited in what ski I can get due to budget and brands I can get a pro-deal with. Thats how I developed the list I have.

post #7 of 9

I haven't skied the Shaman, but I have skied both the Helix and the Turbo.  Of those 2, the Turbo wins hands down!

I found the Helix O-K, very good in soft snow and a little skittish for my tastes on harder, crusty snow.  The Turbo is burlier and a Crud-Crusher that also handles soft snow just as well as or better than the Helix.  Despite looking for a lighter "feeling" and more nimble ski, I almost bought the Turbo on the spot.  My discipline won out...frown.gif

 

Of course, what you like for your skiing and what I like for mine are likely at least a little different, but that's my 2 cents.  The fact that you're quite a bit larger than I am (5'10/175lbs) makes me think that's another reason the burlier Turbo might be the better ski for you, though.  So, my vote is the Turbo.

 

Good luck with the choice!

post #8 of 9

Icelantic Shaman is the most versatile ski and absolutely crushes the groomers and hardpack, while making powder skiing an incredible experience, super fun in all conditions, handles variable stuff and crud really well too. Just an all around killer ski, so dynamic!

post #9 of 9

Not to say Shaman's are not good skis (I have a pair of Icelantic Keepers that I love), but ^^^ the above post is probably not an unbiased opinion.  1st Degree is the Icelantic logo and the previous poster obviously works for them.

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