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salomon z12 ti or marker griffon binding ?

post #1 of 15
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looking for input on pros and cons of each binding
post #2 of 15

It might help to know what your intention is, park, backcountry, racing, recreational cruising, etc.

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Recreational cruising
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Either binding will do what you need it to do.  For strictly recreational purposes there isn't any reason to choose one over the other, get whichever one is cheaper or looks better on your skis.  A Google search leads me to believe the Solly is no longer made and it appears is being discounted by several online dealers.  So, I would probably get the cheaper one, spend the money saved on lift tickets.

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The Z has two problems that I am aware of:

The aluminum heel track cracks within a few seasons for most skiers, most of the time. (I cracked two pairs of an earlier ti)

It is very difficult to get your foot clicked in if there is any surplus snow around the binding or under the boot, more so than any binding I have had.

Worse binding I've had and I only had it because the earlier ti binding I had failed and they warrantied it with this POS.

post #6 of 15

Sounds like you should buy the Marker.

post #7 of 15
There are many other bindings on the market too, sth, px, pivot/fks... any reason your only going with those two? I have markers and they're great, light, good retention, solid construction.
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I have heard that the heel track issue has been fixed on the newer ti's, but they are well-known to have this problem.

 

I've had 4 pairs of Z12ti's- 3 of the demo variant and one a 2011 model (I tend to buy demo skis to round out my quiver and its a very popular demo binding).  No problems with any of them, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

 

The Marker seems to be a very good binding, but unless things have chaged, they are a lot more expensive than the Salomons.

 

For a ski for "recreational cruising" I doubt you will be subjecting either binding to a point that would have problems and would seek out the cheaper one.

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Originally Posted by anachronism View Post

I have heard that the heel track issue has been fixed on the newer ti's, but they are well-known to have this problem.

 

I've had 4 pairs of Z12ti's- 3 of the demo variant and one a 2011 model (I tend to buy demo skis to round out my quiver and its a very popular demo binding).  No problems with any of them, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

 

The Marker seems to be a very good binding, but unless things have chaged, they are a lot more expensive than the Salomons.

 

For a ski for "recreational cruising" I doubt you will be subjecting either binding to a point that would have problems and would seek out the cheaper one.


It's still not worth the risk when there are many more bindings on the market at the same price level that have absolutely no problems. Why settle for anything else.
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It's still not worth the risk when there are many more bindings on the market at the same price level that have absolutely no problems. Why settle for anything else.

Yeah, I'm not really disagreeing that for the same price, I would probably go with a different binding because of the chance of the heel track failure.

 

However, its not always the same price. I bought my pair of ti's because they were close-out and $90 cheaper than any other option, and for that price differential, I though it was a reasonable chance to take.

 

Several other bindings through the years have had this problem too (Atomic)- its not just a Salomon thing.

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Originally Posted by huhh View Post

There are many other bindings on the market too, sth, px, pivot/fks... any reason your only going with those two? I have markers and they're great, light, good retention, solid construction.

  no reason, i'm just clueless when it comes to bindings and i've always bought marker in the past

 

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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Either binding will do what you need it to do.  For strictly recreational purposes there isn't any reason to choose one over the other, get whichever one is cheaper or looks better on your skis.  A Google search leads me to believe the Solly is no longer made and it appears is being discounted by several online dealers.  So, I would probably get the cheaper one, spend the money saved on lift tickets.

both are 2013 models

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I purchased them 12/14 to replace the rear binding of the Salomon Z10 which broke in the first season on a pair of line skis.  I have been skiing for over 60 years.  NEVER had a binding break.  The Z12 replacement broke in within 3 months.  Same place the rear PLASTIC munt area.  Just junk!  I have enjoyed their skis but binding, even this low end shouldn't break.  Griffin binding has not broke yet on my other pair of Line skis.

post #13 of 15
Thanks for digging up a 3 year old thread to tell us you don't like Salomon bindings.
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Thanks for digging up a 3 year old thread to tell us you don't like Salomon bindings.

Salomon makes some excellent bindings; the Z12Ti is not one of them. It is worth digging up an old thread so people are aware. If Rcolbya had seen the original post he might have been spared. The point of the Z12Ti is light weight, which is the problem.

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Thanks for digging up a 3 year old thread to tell us you don't like Salomon bindings.

 

Have to agree with you here.  First post on epicski is to take a dump on a product doesn't bode well.  Probably did the same thing on TripAdvisor to crap on a hotel who didn't have the toilet paper folded into a point properly.

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