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Tree skiing trip in the East

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

Dear ski addicts,

I'm planning a trip of ski this winter and I need some help. I live north of Montreal and usually ski at Tremblant but I also go to Jay Peak whenever I can ( its a 3 hours run...so its usually 6 hours of road for 7 hours of ski...call me stupid...;-) ).

So this winter, I plan to stay at Jay for 2-3 days but I am thinking of maybe going to other resorts around but haven't skied any other than Jay... I REALLY LOVE TREE SKIING AND JAY PEAK so I want to be sure that there will be nice glades to ski and that I wont be regretting not having stayed longer at Jay...

Please do not suggest places you've just heard of....and it would be nice if you had skied Jay so you can make the same comparison as I...

Thanks in advance for your time and I wish you all a nice 2012-12 ski season!!!snowfalling.gif

 

p.s. I'm planning to go alone so if you also have suggestions for places to stay that are not too expensive...

post #2 of 23

I'm not recommending that you ski trees alone.  That's up to you. 

 

My recommendations for good places to ski trees (other than Jay) that are a reasonable drive from Montreal:

 

MRG (VT), Gore Mtn. (NY).

 

My favorite marked glade trails at MRG are: (single chair) Paradise/Fall Line (climb up the slope to your right when you get off the single chair), Upper Glade/Lower Glade, Lynx (very pretty birch glade); (double chair) Partridge/Panther (head immediately to skier's right, into the woods, near where you get off the lift to get the most vert. possible in the trees).

 

See my Gore Mtn. review/guide here, has lots of trail recommendations:  http://www.epicski.com/products/gore-mountain

 

A place to stay that is cheap, with a good restaurant/bar, near Gore is: 

 

http://www.adirondack.net/business/black-mountain-ski-lodge-and-motel-11278/

 

I do day trips to MRG and Sugarbush.  I don't stay.  Others can help you with where to stay in the Mad River Valley.

 

Enjoy your trip.

 

STE

post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 

Thanks STE!

I know that skiing trees alone is not the best but I am always very careful and do not go outbound ( especially if I dont know the mountain). I would prefer to ski with someone but the few of my friends that ski are mostly occasional skiers...

Looking to the trail map of both Gore and MRG, it seems more possible to ski trees from the top to the bottom at Gore that Mrg?

post #4 of 23

I would recommend Burke Mountain in Vermont.  Not the same size as Jay Peak, but that comes with its own benefits.
 

post #5 of 23

At MRG ski Paradise or Fall Line to Ferret to Upper Glade to Lower Glade gets you about 7/8 of the way down the mountain (I usually finish the run by skiing Easy Way over to Waterfall).  Note that parts of the "Glade" trails are pretty wide-open (MRG is trying to fix that by putting ropes around areas where new trees are growing to protect them from being skied over), so they tend to be more like skiing bumps in the trees than true tight Eastern tree skiing.

 

There is no top-to-bottom glade run at Gore, the mountain is kind-of broken up into areas that are each served by a specific lift.  However there are some very long glade runs.  Cirque and Barkeater off of Sagamore are the two longest (more than 1400 feet of vertical, more than a mile long, served by a high-speed quad).  Cave Glades is also a very long glade run (access via the Topridge Triple Chair and the Ruby Run trail).  Doing laps through Cave Glades can be a bit of a chore, but when that's where the best snow on the mountain is, then it's worth it. 

 

When the snow is really good at Gore, try heading down to the Hudson Chair and ski the Hudson Glades/Skibowl Glades, the Hudson Chair does not get as much skiier traffic (in part b/c it is a PITA to get to--ski Barkeater to get there and slog your way back).  That is the most likely place to get Jay-like powder shots (Gore does not get as much snow as Jay). 

 

The glades on Gore's upper mountain (Straightbrook, Mineshaft, Darkside) are fun, but relatively short.   You can usually combine them with skiing a bump run.  On your way back down from skiing the upper mountain, be sure to hit Chatterbox Glades, it's much more fun than skiing a groomer down to the lodge.

 

STE

post #6 of 23

Probably the next closest to Jay from you with good tree skiing is Smuggs or Stowe. (but I haven't skied Stowe)

post #7 of 23

It doesn't make sense as part of a trip to Jay, but a visit to ski the trees at Sugarloaf and Saddleback (photo) is highly recommended.smile.gif

 

post #8 of 23

Haven't skied there, but Sutton is know for its trees.  After hiking there this summer I want to get back during the winter, even if Jay is right there.

 

http://www.montsutton.com/en/home

post #9 of 23

Smuggs will be the closest resort to you at Jay and has good trees. It would also be really easy to go over and ski Burke.

post #10 of 23
Thread Starter 

Hey QCANOE!

I must admit that it looks tempting...but it would mean 3.5 hours more on the road....

 

COMETJO,

Sutton is my second favorite mountain after Jay! If you've never been, it's worth the trip! It is smaller than Jay and it is a nice mountain if you like bumps because they are everywhere!!! The mountain looks like a big  sparse glade ( specially at skier,s right)  ( its not like the glades at Jay).

 

CHANWMR,

I heard that Stowe is overpriced and overcrowded?

2 votes for Smuggs!

post #11 of 23
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CHANWMR,

I heard that Stowe is overpriced and overcrowded?

 

 

You get what you pay for! But it's considerably farther than Smuggs or Burke.

post #12 of 23

Smuggs, Sutton or Burke, in that order, would be your best alternatives nearby Jay. Everything else mentioned is double the drive time. There's lots of good glade skiing in New England, it's just a bit further away.
 

post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

It doesn't make sense as part of a trip to Jay, but a visit to ski the trees at Sugarloaf and Saddleback (photo) is highly recommended.smile.gif

 

 

 

Sorry for the minor threadjack, but I can't resist.  I'm headed to Sugarloaf in early January but have never been.  The wife and I love trees and would be happy for any tips.  We are also most likely going to bring boots but demo skis since this trip is linked into an Xmas visit and it's just too much stuff to bring along for a quick 2-day trip.  Any advice on the best ski shop?

post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by epic View Post

Smuggs will be the closest resort to you at Jay and has good trees. It would also be really easy to go over and ski Burke.

You trying to keep the good stuff for you and Joshsmile.gif

 

 

Mogsie, I'll also 2nd Sutton and Burke good stuff at those places.

post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by SuboptimusPrime View Post
Sorry for the minor threadjack, but I can't resist.  I'm headed to Sugarloaf in early January but have never been.  The wife and I love trees and would be happy for any tips.  We are also most likely going to bring boots but demo skis since this trip is linked into an Xmas visit and it's just too much stuff to bring along for a quick 2-day trip.  Any advice on the best ski shop?

 

You don't want to count on skiing trees at Christmas time. Often we're well into January before there is enough natural base to make for good conditions in the woods. We can always hope, though! :)

 

You will want to hook up with a Sugarloaf local for the best lines in the woods. (As you can see from my sig, I spend more time at Saddleback.) Obviously Brackett Basin has a lot of glade acreage and is the first place to look. You can take quite a few runs in there before you will run out of lines. (Don't go too far down the hill or you will be be hiking through condos.) There is also a nice open birch section between King's Landing and Hayburner, if the spruce in Brackett leave you feeling claustrophobic.

 

As for shops, Happy Tunes is the way to go, in my view. It's halfway down the road to Kingfield from the mountain. Excellent tuning and personal service. (Example: I am not a regular there, but they fixed a ski brake issue and a core shot for me while I waited one night, even though they were already working hard.) It's a small shop and you will be there during one of their busiest times, so I would call them ahead of time to tell them you're coming and make sure they'll have something that will suit your needs. They may be willing to put something aside for you, and in any case you'll be getting your relationship off to a good start by giving them a heads-up.

 

Anything more, PM me or start a new thread.

post #16 of 23

If you are interested in Stowe (which does have great trees) the thing to do is not ski it from Jay (its hard to get to because part of rte 108 is closed in winter) but to go straight there.  Staying in Waterbury its pretty easy to ski Stowe, Mad River, & Sugarbush, all of which have pretty great trees.

post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by cometjo View Post

If you are interested in Stowe (which does have great trees) the thing to do is not ski it from Jay (its hard to get to because part of rte 108 is closed in winter) but to go straight there.  Staying in Waterbury its pretty easy to ski Stowe, Mad River, & Sugarbush, all of which have pretty great trees.


One does not need to go thru the 108 gap to get to Stowe from Jay, just go south on Rte 100 and it goes right into Stowe.Takes about an hour

post #18 of 23
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One does not need to go thru the 108 gap to get to Stowe from Jay, just go south on Rte 100 and it goes right into Stowe.Takes about an hour

 

It seems like a major inconvenience not having 108, but according to Mapquest, the trip only goes from 1:04 to 1:21. No biggie I guess.

post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 

If it's to complicated by the road, I'll take my helicopter...wink.gif

post #20 of 23

I also recommend Burke.

Additional bonus is that there are some pretty good combo deals with Jay now that they are under the same ownership.

Bonus #2 is if timing works out, I can provide some company for skiing the trees there.

post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by Fromthenek View Post

I also recommend Burke.

Additional bonus is that there are some pretty good combo deals with Jay now that they are under the same ownership.

Bonus #2 is if timing works out, I can provide some company for skiing the trees there.

Bonus #3: the new chairlift I just saw on your blog?

 

Thanks for the offering! I'll keep it in mind!

post #22 of 23

Conditions are turning out better than I expected at Gore (I didn't want anyone who made the trip to be disappointed).  I expect Gore's glades to be in good shape after the snow storm that is coming through this evening (12/26) and tomorrow.

 

Check Gore's web site to see which glades are open:  http://www.goremountain.com/mountain/alpine-conditions.cfm

 

Good news is always appreciated. Yipee!

 

STE

post #23 of 23
Thread Starter 

Here at Tremblant ( north of Montreal), The conditions are just incredebile!!! It feels like if we already were in february...This will be a great year...yahoo.gif

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