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post #31 of 81
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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post

Its limited, but Keystone and Copper already have some solid blue terrain open.  Copper has its speed course under the Superbee open for the race teams now- parts of that are advanced terrain (especially for someone coming from the mid west) and I would be surprised if that is not open to the public for Thanksgiving.  

It'd be nice to have the speed center at Copper open for turkey day, but I doubt it will be. They use the speed course to train and with Ll and Bird of Prey coming up a couple of weeks later, I suspect the race teams will be hitting it hard. They generally don't open the terrain they use for race training to the public until the first weekend of December.

Mike
post #32 of 81
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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post


It'd be nice to have the speed center at Copper open for turkey day, but I doubt it will be. They use the speed course to train and with Ll and Bird of Prey coming up a couple of weeks later, I suspect the race teams will be hitting it hard. They generally don't open the terrain they use for race training to the public until the first weekend of December.
Mike

 

Yeah, last season it was not until the second weekend in December. Definitely a downside to the whole speed center thing, and for ME personally, since Super B is the lift we take in the mornings. Now we have to walk to Center Village. But ... not a huge deal. I wouldn't rent a condo in East Village before then, though, unless you want to take a bus every morning. 

post #33 of 81
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Originally Posted by Weedsnager View Post

After reading everyone's advice, I think we are going to try and go for a week sometime in February, right now we are looking at vail.

Wise descision. With the Vail resorts ticket, you have your choice of Vail, Beaver Creek, Breck and Keystone. Snow should be good by Feb, but there can be a significant difference in snow conditions from Keystone to Beaver Creek along I-70. Choice is always a good thing, especially if you have a car. BTW, they seed the clouds at Breck. Anyone notice that the base the past few years is better at Breck, then Keystone to the east? Robbing Peter to pay Paul???

post #34 of 81
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Originally Posted by Weedsnager View Post

After reading everyone's advice, I think we are going to try and go for a week sometime in February, right now we are looking at vail.

 

With your group sounding like folks that will be primarily skiing intermediate terrain, might I suggest Snowmass, Steamboat, Winter Park, or even smaller areas like Monarch, Sunlight, Purgatory, Wolf Creek?

 

Summit County/Vail gets the lion's share of ski visits. February can be a real shitshow, ESPECIALLY if you are thinking of coming out Prsident's weekend.

 

Snowmass, Steamboat, Winter Park will be  less crowded (especially Snowmass and Steamboat), and have more intermediate terrain than you will be able to consume in a weeks time.

 

You can find plenty of other posts from me (and others) on here that will push smaller, less crowded resorts on here instead of Vail/Breck.  Better snow quality, less people skiing these areas so powders days are DAYS rather than hours, and in general a more fun atmosphere. I live in Colorado.  Seaosn passes are cheap here. I could afford to buy a pass anywhere. The smaller areas earn my business because in my eyes they offer the better ski experience at any price. 

 

I get that for a first time to Colorado ski trip, I probably can't convince you to hit a non-resort. But still, getting away from Summit County will  make things much less crowded. Summit/Vail have NOTHING terrain wise that you can't find elsewhere with less crowds.

post #35 of 81
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Originally Posted by anachronism View Post

Summit/Vail have NOTHING terrain wise that you can't find elsewhere with less crowds.

 

Well, there are very limited, if any, crowds at Copper.  And it has pretty decent terrain.  You can also ski Copper on the weekends when the EPIC pass resorts are slammed, and ski Vail/Breck etc. during the week when no one is there...

 

Mike

post #36 of 81
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Originally Posted by anachronism View Post

 

With your group sounding like folks that will be primarily skiing intermediate terrain, might I suggest Snowmass, Steamboat, Winter Park, or even smaller areas like Monarch, Sunlight, Purgatory, Wolf Creek?

 

Summit County/Vail gets the lion's share of ski visits. February can be a real shitshow, ESPECIALLY if you are thinking of coming out Prsident's weekend.

 

Snowmass, Steamboat, Winter Park will be  less crowded (especially Snowmass and Steamboat), and have more intermediate terrain than you will be able to consume in a weeks time.

 

You can find plenty of other posts from me (and others) on here that will push smaller, less crowded resorts on here instead of Vail/Breck.  Better snow quality, less people skiing these areas so powders days are DAYS rather than hours, and in general a more fun atmosphere. I live in Colorado.  Seaosn passes are cheap here. I could afford to buy a pass anywhere. The smaller areas earn my business because in my eyes they offer the better ski experience at any price. 

 

I get that for a first time to Colorado ski trip, I probably can't convince you to hit a non-resort. But still, getting away from Summit County will  make things much less crowded. Summit/Vail have NOTHING terrain wise that you can't find elsewhere with less crowds.

It wouldn't be an Anachronism post without a slam of Vail Resorts and a plug for Monarch and Sunlight. ROTF.gif

post #37 of 81
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Originally Posted by COBillsFan View Post

It wouldn't be an Anachronism post without a slam of Vail Resorts and a plug for Monarch and Sunlight. ROTF.gif

Why not Eldora then? They could all smoke Doobies (legally now) with the CU students.

 

Pass those Cheetos and Gold Fish.......

post #38 of 81
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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post


It'd be nice to have the speed center at Copper open for turkey day, but I doubt it will be. They use the speed course to train and with Ll and Bird of Prey coming up a couple of weeks later, I suspect the race teams will be hitting it hard. They generally don't open the terrain they use for race training to the public until the first weekend of December.
Mike

Thanks for the info...I wasn`t around last fall and from past memory recalled them opening Excelerator and Super Bee to the public before T-giving.  Two years ago I remember skiing some thigh deep off the top of drain pipe before Thanksgiving and then going back down to Super Bee to get back up because Reso wasn`t running yet.

 

I enjoy watching the racers early season, but would like to enjoy some more terrain also.

post #39 of 81
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Originally Posted by COBillsFan View Post

It wouldn't be an Anachronism post without a slam of Vail Resorts and a plug for Monarch and Sunlight. ROTF.gif

There is some truth to what he is saying if you are talking about the Sat-Sun of Pres weekend, but most of the time intermediate skiers will be fine in Summit or Eagle mid-week.  I have heard good things about Monarch and Sunlight, but they don`t have as easy an access for most people.

post #40 of 81

Saw a new buzz word in the news today...     Aspendam

post #41 of 81
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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post

There is some truth to what he is saying if you are talking about the Sat-Sun of Pres weekend, but most of the time intermediate skiers will be fine in Summit or Eagle mid-week.  I have heard good things about Monarch and Sunlight, but they don`t have as easy an access for most people.

 

Hey they’re not horrible, but if you have never been to Colorado, you’ve got to start with the big boys.

 

The small ski areas are a great changeup for a day, but not for an extended vacation or for spending a season at. 

post #42 of 81

oh I like it. There could be loads of these to come!!

post #43 of 81
Thread Starter 

we are now looking at march 4th for 4 or 5 days, can you guys suggest some place to stay, i'd like to be able to walk to the lifts, we were thinking vail because alot of you said vail has vast amouts of blue-intermediate runs, but were open to anything. our main goals are lodging close to the lifts and less crowded

post #44 of 81

Pizza with Peyton! devil.gif

post #45 of 81
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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post

Thanks for the info...I wasn`t around last fall and from past memory recalled them opening Excelerator and Super Bee to the public before T-giving.  Two years ago I remember skiing some thigh deep off the top of drain pipe before Thanksgiving and then going back down to Super Bee to get back up because Reso wasn`t running yet.

 

I enjoy watching the racers early season, but would like to enjoy some more terrain also.

Yeah, last season was the first with the new setup. It didn't really matter because there was no skiing that way before then anyway, but it is a lot of mountain to lose.

 

Currently sitting up at Copper watching LOTS of snow come down. Hopefully it doesn't stop any time soon.

post #46 of 81
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Originally Posted by Weedsnager View Post

we are now looking at march 4th for 4 or 5 days, can you guys suggest some place to stay, i'd like to be able to walk to the lifts, we were thinking vail because alot of you said vail has vast amouts of blue-intermediate runs, but were open to anything. our main goals are lodging close to the lifts and less crowded

I`d hold off on booking lodging until there is more snow on the ground although that time of year is almost always at least decent.  By waiting you can see if there are any early winners or losers and if you have the balls you might be able to snag a last minute lodging deal (although your choices might be less by waiting).  

 

Vail, Beaver Creek, Copper, Steamboat, Snowmass, Keystone, Breckenridge and likely a few others all have a good amount of blues with lodging that is walking distance to the lifts.  Your dates should be good in terms of crowds most places as I THINK it is the week before spring break and you are coming mid-week. 

post #47 of 81
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Originally Posted by Weedsnager View Post

we are now looking at march 4th for 4 or 5 days, can you guys suggest some place to stay, i'd like to be able to walk to the lifts, we were thinking vail because alot of you said vail has vast amouts of blue-intermediate runs, but were open to anything. our main goals are lodging close to the lifts and less crowded

ok, back to this ... you asked in one thread about ski-in, ski-out, but do you just mean you want the availability of walking, or true ski-in ski-out? Vail doesn't have a ton of the latter (most would be homes on the hill, many of which are private and all of which are hiiiigh dollar), but there is a lot of accommodation where you can walk to the lifts and back. The closest hotels to the slopes are probably looking at $500/nt and up. You can get a room at Pepi's (Gasthof Gramshammer) right in the middle of the village for about $300/night, including breakfast. It's always a favorite of mine, although I haven't stayed there in a while. Also there is Cascade, which has lift access. It isn't the middle of the village, but there  is a bus, and it's close. And cheaper than the village.

 

Check vrbo for condos, of which there are many. Search in Cascade, Lionshead, Vail Village, and Golden Peak for close access. 

 

(--Of course that's the info just for Vail. As others have said, you have many options.)

post #48 of 81
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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post

I`d hold off on booking lodging until there is more snow on the ground although that time of year is almost always at least decent.  By waiting you can see if there are any early winners or losers and if you have the balls you might be able to snag a last minute lodging deal (although your choices might be less by waiting).  

 

Vail, Beaver Creek, Copper, Steamboat, Snowmass, Keystone, Breckenridge and likely a few others all have a good amount of blues with lodging that is walking distance to the lifts.  Your dates should be good in terms of crowds most places as I THINK it is the week before spring break and you are coming mid-week. 

 

Ski conditions for early March in Colorado is about as safe a bet as they come. Even last year conditions were decent in early March.  March is the snowiest month, and temperatures are not a concern. Last year was the first year in recent memory where resorts were closing in April due to lack of snow rather than lack of crowds.

 

I would really, really consider Aspen/Snowmass.  Crowds are a fraction of Vail/Summit County, and Snowmass is a very intermediate friendly mountain with an enormous amount of cruiser terrain (with the top of Snowmass being a lot of very, very good expert terrain).  Ajax Mountain (Aspen) is a much smaller mountain, but has intermediate runs with a TON of vert. 

 

Unlike Summit County, where Keystone and Breck are about 30 minutes away from each other and Vail is about an hour from Breck, all of Aspen's resorts are with 10 minutes of each other, making resort hopping easy, even at mid day.  All are shuttle connected, and the local transportation network is very, very good. 

 

I can't give you a specific recommendation on where to stay in the Aspen area, but prices for hotels whose names don't end in Jerome are not much different than most other tier 1 ski resorts.

 

I would also really look at Steamboat. Steamboat is very much a resort that an intermediate should LOVE.  The town has a lot of lodging, including a lot that is quite affordable.  Crowds at Steamboat are usually pretty light.

post #49 of 81
Thread Starter 

the reason we never even looked at Aspen/Snowmass is because of the 4 hour drive from denver

post #50 of 81

There are three directs daily out of ORD and you wouldn't need to rent a car.   I think you'd really like Snowmass,  stay at the Skiers Chalet.

post #51 of 81

Agreed that ORD has a large option of not only connecting flights to resorts but direct.   American Airlines is one major carrier which hopefully had resolved their issues by then ...

 

I'd second consideration of Steamboat as it really has a great family feel, activities and range of lodging.  It's layout is nice to allow easy access to your desired Blues and Greens when wanted with some open easier tree skiing.

 

However it can be a bit higher priced depending on planning, just not positive how it compares to other recommended resorts.

post #52 of 81

Good thing you decided to delay your trip. The natural snow is almost nonexistent in Summit county and all that is open is a few runs with MM stuff.

 

Cam 1

post #53 of 81

Good call...you'll be much happier

post #54 of 81

ummm, not to let the cat out of the bag, but never ski CO (unless it's silverton or steamboat and you KNOW it's been snowing) before new years for a destination trip.  Plan your CO trips for spring break time.

post #55 of 81
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Originally Posted by guroo270 View Post

ummm, not to let the cat out of the bag, but never ski CO (unless it's silverton or steamboat and you KNOW it's been snowing) before new years for a destination trip.  Plan your CO trips for spring break time.

Unless you've got the Wr guarantee. Which allowed you to reschedule up to 2 dust before arrival I'd ou didn't like how the conditions looked. I think that deal is expiring, though.

Mike
post #56 of 81
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Originally Posted by guroo270 View Post

ummm, not to let the cat out of the bag, but never ski CO (unless it's silverton or steamboat and you KNOW it's been snowing) before new years for a destination trip.  Plan your CO trips for spring break time.


Never?  I've had hundreds of good days before Christmas!  I still have a reservation on SWA for Highlands opener on 12/8, but I can also cancel or change it w/o charge.

post #57 of 81
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Never?  I've had hundreds of good days before Christmas!  I still have a reservation on SWA for Highlands opener on 12/8, but I can also cancel or change it w/o charge.

This...

Two Decembers ago I had at least 10 days of boot deep or better powder before Christmas and that doesn't count the numerous other soft days...most terrain was open by December 12th or so.

post #58 of 81

I know you said you were against the 4 hour drive from Denver to Aspen but I would like to also say it is well worth the extra time.  No lift lines and March is typically really good snow wise.  If you would like I know of a condo that is ski in ski out on Aspen Mtn lift 1A.  Relatively affordable with heated pool and grilling deck.

 

PM me if interested.

 

Brian
 

post #59 of 81
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Originally Posted by wiscoskier View Post 

No lift lines and March is typically really good snow wise.  If you would like I know of a condo that is ski in ski out on Aspen Mtn lift 1A.  Relatively affordable with heated pool and grilling deck.

 

 

Shadow Mountain?  

post #60 of 81

Weeds,

 

I'm from the Mid-west and I've done the trip you're talking about for the last 6-7 years, except always during Spring Break.  Here's my advice.

 

If you decide to ski Summit Co., stay in Dillon/Frisco/Silverthorne and ski whichever resort has the best snow for the day.  Note, all resorts will be crowded during Spring Break, so try to stay high on the mountain to avoid the atrocious lines at the base.  There's free parking to be had at Vail.  Get to Vail early and beat feet to Blue Sky, Big Rock Park and Cloud 9 are a couple of our favorites.  You can get a pass that will let you ski Keystone, Breck, Vail, and BC, your pick.  Ask around on here for discounted friends pass to Copper.  I like the flexibility of going to a different mountain each day.  We usually ski Monday, Tuesday, take a break on Wed. do some sight seeing, ski Thursday and Friday - this depends on the snow; if it's bombing on Wed. we're skiing.  And we usually ski all day, try to time it so you're on the lift a few minutes before it closes and that last run is on basically an empty mountain.

 

As far as altitude is concerned, just follow the basics the first few days; plenty of water, take it easy, plenty of rest, and lay off the PBR.  I've never had a problem.

 

Regarding the West black/blue/green vs. the Midwest black/blue/green debate, the only difference I've noticed is the runs are much, much longer out West with more varied terrain.  You can run into a steep (black) spot on a blue run.  So when you see one of those big yellow signs in the middle of a run that says SLOW - slow down because chances are there's steep section just ahead of it.  If you can ski blacks in the Mid-west you'll be fine out West, but your legs will be burning by the end of the day.  If I were you I would avoid green runs unless you need to get to a particular lift.  You really need to plot out how to get up the mountain to the areas you want to ski. Most hotels will have a weather report and grooming map for all the resorts, or you can get that info. online.  And if you get on a mogul run, that can get very tiring really fast - I'm not a mogul skier. 

 

Whatever you decide on doing, you'll have a blast.  Ski all day, hit the hot tub at the end of day with friends and a few drinks, embellish the days exploits, then go out for dinner - do it all over the next day.

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