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How short is too short?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Hi all - I've been looking for a cheap carving ski on ebay, something for groomers when I'm with friends who are beginners, or when I'm out skiing with my 5-year-old daughter.  I already have a good ski for variable conditions, the Nordica Patron (177 long 113 wide).  I demo'd them last year, loved 'em, and found a good deal (ebay!).

 

I took the Patrons out yesterday to A-basin with one goal: to practice carving.  I started to get knack of it and was pretty excited, but also had this strong feeling that wide skis like the Patrons weren't the best skis for learning carving or goofing around on groomers with beginners. 

 

So I went to ebay and found lots of decent skis at bargain prices (this is gonna have to be a low-cost purchase this time around).  I figured I'd get something in the 70-90mm waist but wondered just how short I should/could go.  155-170?

 

About me

5' 11", 140lbs, Intermediate with the goal of being advanced after the next couple years.

I ski in CO and plan to ski 15-20 times this year.

 

P.S.  It would be nice if these skis were useful on bumps too.

post #2 of 11

For your stats you probably need 165-170cm for what you want.
 

post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

And would going down to like 158 be hard to ski, or just feel weird?

post #4 of 11

I'm 5'10 and ski REALLY short all the time, my go to skis are 154cm, stupidly easy to turn and a lot of fun, far less stable going fast of course, but hey mucking about with beginners on easy slopes they are ideal.

post #5 of 11

You could get away with a 155SL, that will be stiff enough to work properly. 

post #6 of 11

First, I realize you're trying to keep the cost down but buying something blind on eBay is just doesn't make sense. There is no warranty, no refund, and will probably turn out to be the wrong ski for you so you didn't save anything.

 

Second, I'd recommend something in the 70's to low 80's for waist width. This should get you into a decent carving ski. But if you're a half decent skier and can handle blue runs with no problem, a low end ski will just wash out from underneath you. Especially if you're a little aggressive. Make sure to get purchase something in the mid range, $500.00 range with bindings for new.

 

Third, Depending on the model, a 165 cm to 170 cm would be a good range for your weight and height. If you can find out the available lengths in the model, choose one size down from the longest length of that model.

 

There are many skis you can choose from. Living in CO you have many shops around you. Visit one. They will probably have something left over from last season that will work for you and save you a ton of money. Should be able to get something with bindings for under $400.00 and you'll get the correct model, get a warranty and have the bindings set correctly.

 

We have a Salomon Lagoon ski that will work for you. See it at http://www.alpineaccessories.com/Salomon-Origins-Lagoon-ladies-skis-with-L9-bindings/productinfo/SA1LG/

 

Good luck with your search.

 

Rick 

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by cfr View Post

For your stats you probably need 165-170cm for what you want.
 

^^^this. 

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Originally Posted by river-z View Post

And would going down to like 158 be hard to ski, or just feel weird?

I think so.  Unless you're getting an SL ski, going that short may seem squirrely at speed

post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks everybody. this is helpful feedback

post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 

Looking at some good deals: 

   Kastle mx88

   Blizzard Bushwhacker

   Head Monster m72

 

This is gonna be hard... 

post #10 of 11

170-175, lose the Patrons or anything that wide for groomers, suspect the Bushwackers will make you happiest. Forgiving but big envelope as you get better, can tolerate low speeds for skiing with your friends and daughter, but can also carve at decent pace, good almost everywhere from groomers to trees. The MX88's will not be happy at low speeds, and only semi-happy in bumps or trees, not really an intermediate ski, period. The Monsters are a nice carver but not for crud or chop or any soft snow. Not a CO ski. 

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by river-z View Post

And would going down to like 158 be hard to ski, or just feel weird?

Skiing shorter than usual skis has been pretty easy for me.  Regular length is in the 154-159 range.  Have an old pair at 146 that I use as rock skis in the southeast.  Also an ancient pair of used rental skis at 136 bought on eBay for $100 specifically for going on short bunny slopes when my daughter was learning as a preschooler.  When I buy skis from eBay, I'm usually getting them from a store that uses eBay as a portal.  I always ask enough questions to get comfortable before making the purchase.  Not too many options in central NC ski shops, especially for skis appropriate for using out west.

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