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K2 Amp Rictor or Volkl RTM 77 or 80 as a new ski

post #1 of 9
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Looking to buy some new skis this season. Live in Eastern Canada. Our conditions are mostly groomers, crug and ice not much powder around here.

 

 

Which Ski would you suggest I look into between the K2 Rictor or the Volkl RTM 77 or 80

 

I Ski on 166 or 167cm

 

Been skiing for the past 12 years

 

5"7 and 150lbs

post #2 of 9

I managed to demo the RTM80 back a few months ago (10cm of fresh over a groomed base, turning into chopped pow, soft bumps and crud over the day, with large areas of wind blown hardpack and the occasional sheet of ice) and I was mightily impressed.  To be honest I was quite prepared to dislike it - I didn't like the old AC50; thought it was a plank.  Of course that's just one man's opinion.  The AC50 impressed a lot of people but also polarised opinion - especially mine.  I'm happy to say the RTM series is a different beast entirely.  They've removed the large camber of the AC series in favour of 'continuous rocker'.  In reality the 'rocker' is very slight, a few mm at each end of a flatish ski.  It still feels like a carving ski, just with a more playful feel than Volkls of old.  They've also eased off on the 'extended transmission rails' in the tip and tail, which makes them more forgiving.  The ski still has plenty (lots) of grip, although not so much pop coming out of the turn.  A bit of forgiveness is a nice thing in an all mountain ski.

 

I haven't been on the Rictor, or it's bigger brother the Aftershock, although I've read good things about both.  Mostly along the lines of "the best range of skis to come out of K2 in years".  I have no experience at all on K2 skis, so I don't have an opinion beyond that.

 

Were it me I'd be happy to pull the rigger on the RTM in an appropriate length.  Mind you, there's also an RTM84 (it was always out on the hill for my demo day ... hate that).  Depending on how much crud appears in your average "groomers, crud and ice" day you might like to give that one a demo as well.  It's laid up the same although it's a slightly more substantial ski.  

 

There are other great options in the same space (of course) but you're quite specific, so I'll leave it at that.

 

Best of luck.

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There are other great options in the same space (of course) but you're quite specific, so I'll leave it at that.

 

Best of luck.

I'm Open to Suggestions, I'm willing to go with any Brand so long as they are good on groomers,crud and ice because that's the conditions we have out here. I wish we had powder but I'll be making at least 1 trip out west for that this season.

 

What about twin tip? Any good suggestions for a twin tipped ski that would do the job? I don't mind buying a last year model ski either if I can manage to get a good deal on them.

post #4 of 9

Unless you're into sliding around backwards I'd stick with a traditional shape for your stated purpose.  If you do end up going with a twin tip, for whatever reason, size up one length to allow for the raised tail - you lose around 8-10cm of effective running length depending on the ski.

 

Opinions vary, of course, but the skis that stand out in the space you're interested in are the following:

 

Kastle MX78 or MX83 - traditional shape, flatish tail, no early rise, elliptical sidecut (tighter in the front, getting wider through the tail)

Kastle FX84 - lighter metal in this model, a slightly different shape

Kastle LX82 - lighter feeling than the MX, single radius sidecut

Blizzard Magnum 8.1 - traditional shape, flatish tail, no early rise

Blizzard Magnum 8.5 - newer model, incorporates early rise

Head Supershape Titan

Volkl's RTM series - per the above

Dynastar's Outland series is getting great reviews - various models and widths; has early rise in the tip and a short turning radius on hardpack; read some reviews as you might be able to go longer with this one

Rossignol's Experience series

Salomon's Enduro series

Atomic's VF series

Fischer's Progressor 1000, or the Motive series

 

I'm probably just confusing you now with all the above.  Of these the Kastles are considered top of the class by many in the industry (read some reviews) although you can pay big $$$ for them.  I own the MX78 (and have taken a couple of demo runs on the 83) and they're easily the best consumer all mountain skis I've ever slid around on.  I've skied examples of all the above except the Salomons/Fischers, and I've included them for the hell of it.

 

It always, always pays to demo of course, but hopefully the above might give you some models to target at your nearest demo day.  Still, Holiday is selling a 172cm Blizzi Magnum 8.1 in great shape on the gear sales board (second page now).  That may be a little long for your taste.  Peruse the board anyway as there's often deals on offer.

 

Good luck with the coming season.  Come back and post to let us know what you end up with and how you like them.


Edited by sinbad7 - 10/28/12 at 3:54pm
post #5 of 9

Apologies, I forgot to mention the Magnum 8.0 (either the CA or Ti variant).  Here is a great review of the two new 'flipcore' Blizzi Magnums by Dawg.  Great work.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/110399/video-review-2013-blizzard-magnum-8-5ti-and-magnum-8-0ti

post #6 of 9

i'll throw in that the rictor has been around for a couple of years; and RTM has been out last year.  

You should be able to find them really inexpensive used or last years stock-especially the rictors.

Both have relatively short turning radius, so are a bit better for small radius skiing rather then high speed big sweepers where they will keep turning rather then holding the radius you want them to stay at.

 

I think the rtms were a bit stiffer than the rictors when I tried them.  

post #7 of 9

Too bad the Rictors are not the smartest looking skis out there.

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Too bad the Rictors are not the smartest looking skis out there.

 

smartest? I think they look fine. 

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A friend based out of New Jersey skis the Rictor and loves it for typical east coast conditions. (More than 6 inches he goes wider).

 

Gotta agree with Erik on the visuals, K2's AMP series is not stellar - and I say that as someone who bought the Aftershock.

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