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Best World Class Major City near (Within 2 Hours) of skiing

post #1 of 20
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hello, I have had the chance to relocate to europe, and I do not want to stop skiing. I like cities like paris and london, but they aren't near skiing so I can't live there! Any suggestions on where to live? As you can tell I like big major cities. Thanks for your input! Happy 2013 skiing!

post #2 of 20

Geneva has to be right up there.

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 

how does geneva compare with cities like london and paris

post #4 of 20

It really depends what you want. Geneva is very much smaller but very beautiful. I'd go there any time before either London or Paris but I hate big cities. Innsbruck is a great city as well and very close  to lots of great skiing. I really like Grenbole. My daughter lived there for 3 years. You can take a bus to about it must be 30+ ski areas each day. Salzburg is beautiful too. All of these are great places but nothing like the huge metropolises of Paris or London. 

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

Thanks for your input adie! But I prefer large metropolises because of work, and more opportunites. If they are a little farther away from skiing its fine. I just have a liking for big cities :) Does anyone have suggestions?

post #6 of 20

If you restrict it to the 20 largest cities in Europe, Vienna, Milan or Torino.

post #7 of 20
Look at Zurich. It is consistently rated as a top standard of living city (google and you should get some good rating comparisons).
post #8 of 20

Zurich, Geneva and Grenoble are all three on my list for retirement...but none are Paris or London scale. Zurich is comparable in size to Portland.

 

And it's bloody expensive....which means I probably won't end up there.

post #9 of 20

How about Munich? Population of 1.5 million, strong economy, extremely high livability ratings, and only a little more than an hour from Garmisch-Partenkirchen.
 

post #10 of 20

One thing London has going for it that there are a lot of tour operators who offer packages to a lot of the top destinations including air, etc.  Lots of good last minute deals if you are flexible, but most are for a week...if you are looking to do the weekend thing, then the suggestions above cover most of your obvious (and likely best) options.  I'll add Lyon to the list because of its size.    

 

There are also some cities further south that offer some skiing within 2 hours or so.  Nice isn`t as big, but there are worse places to live and it is possible to ski in the morning and hit beach in the afternoon.  Marseilles is bigger than Nice, but probably a bit further from the resorts.  Barcelona is a cool city that you can access the Pyrenees.  Similar with Toulouse.

 

 

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how does geneva compare with cities like london and paris

 

Much sleepier in my limited experience...Very much of a government/banker type town.  I much prefer Zurich- not huge but a good energy both times I visited.

post #11 of 20
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I have thought about barcelona how is it?

post #12 of 20

I'd go to one of Switzerland's cities based on skiing. Munich seems like it'd be a good choice, too, especially if you like beer.

post #13 of 20
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I have thought about barcelona how is it?


one of my favorite cities in all Europe but going skiing in Andorra sounds better than it actually is. 

post #14 of 20

It may depend on the industry you're targeting for work (assuming that's your plan).  For instance, Luxembourg is a center for financial services.  It's not a metropolis by any means, but it's way up there within that particular industry.

 

Then there's the political climate and national character of the region.  If I had to make the choice right now I'd choose northern Italy, just because I love the way Italians live life.  Then again I've never spent any time in Switzerland or Germany so I'm working off limited experience.

 

Still, it's a great opportunity.  I'm jealous.  Best of luck.

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I'd go to one of Switzerland's cities based on skiing. Munich seems like it'd be a good choice, too, especially if you like beer.

Your assuming he can afford it. Switzerland is crazy epxensive

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Zurich is comparable in size to Portland.

The metro area for Zurich is 2 million people. If you can afford Paris or London....
post #17 of 20
Barcelona. As cosmopolitan as can be; outrageous architecture, food, art, and culture; Mediterranean climate; a few hours to the Spanish Pyrenees on a train; and not all that far from skiing in France.
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one of my favorite cities in all Europe but going skiing in Andorra sounds better than it actually is. 

 

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Barcelona. As cosmopolitan as can be; outrageous architecture, food, art, and culture; Mediterranean climate; a few hours to the Spanish Pyrenees on a train; and not all that far from skiing in France.

I basically agree with both of the above, but no place is as international as London.  

 

Not a ton of really tall buildings- the city center is not the beach, so you have some distinct areas.  Part of the Catalan region of Spain, so you have both Spanish and Catalonia spoken...many of the Catalan people consider themselves Catalan first and some want independence from Spain.  

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How about Munich? Population of 1.5 million, strong economy, extremely high livability ratings, and only a little more than an hour from Garmisch-Partenkirchen.
 


I live in Munich.... and it is great. Incredible quality of life if you like the outdoors. Tons of jobs, particularly in engineering tech science and automotive etc. One of the lowest unemployment rates in Europe.... or the world really.

1.5 million in the city and 2.5 metro area.

Everyone bikes everywhere. There are lots of lakes and rivers to swim and play in. And we can see the alps on a clear day.

Forget garmisch. 1.15 hrs to a dozen medium resorts. 1.5 hrs to 5k+ ft vertical at hochzillertal and hochfugen with great off piste. And 2.25 hrs to hintertux glacier with around 6k+ vert feet including major off piste that is prime from Nov to June. And is open but limited 365 days a year. Oh... and our Tyrol season pass is 670 euros and covers something like a hundred resorts.

The downsides of Munich include: limited all night nightlife. A somewhat insular local population (but big organized expat community). Munich has zero edge. And lacks the youth energy of NYC or Berlin (I previously lived in NYC and before that SF). It feels like a huge town.... which is good or bad. I make it good.

Also, for general living Munich is not known for its high end cuisine or good +cheap non European cuisine. But options are rapidly improving.

Hell we just got our first Munich made proper IPA this year... and two ski shops/dealers who are official DPS sellers. Saw and lusted after the 112rp last week.
post #20 of 20
Btw: the Munich expat forum is toytown.com

Name is a joke. City is safe and clean and like a toy town...
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