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Vail vs. Beaver for Blue Terrain Skier/Lodging Expense

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

Hey everyone,

 

Can people weigh in on the pros and cons of Vail vs. Beaver Creeek for wide open easy blue terrain (intermediate); the cost for lodging; and the general experience of one vs. the other?  Many thanks!

post #2 of 25

both have what you are looking for but I would give the advantage to The Beav's Bachelor Gulch for easy groomers. Both are costly. Vail is obviously larger and busier. The Beav' can be uber ultra expensive staying on the mountain Hyatt or Ritz for instance or you can stay in Edwards or Avon for much less.  The Christi lodge is popular.  Vail also offers a wide array of lodging. What else are you looking for? 

 

Dining? non-ski activities? 

 

The Beav' has a reputation for being snooty but its not really. Its a nice place to take a family if you have the coin. If you wanted more vaired terrain or were looking to possibly ski other mountains I would say vail or look to stay in Dillon or Frisco. 

 

I am pretty sure there are some really good deals on lodging at Christy lodge right now. 

post #3 of 25
My feeling is if you're a decent Intermediate skier you should go and experience Vail. It is amazing. It's huge, spread out, frontside, backside, Blue Sky Basin, which is an intermediate's heaven. Skiing through the woods, but wide open groomed areas through the woods, and at a gentle pace if you take those lines. Beaver Creek may have more dedicated "blues" but Vail is an Intermediate and Advanced Skiers heaven.
post #4 of 25
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Originally Posted by Michaelfahlund View Post

Hey everyone,

 

Can people weigh in on the pros and cons of Vail vs. Beaver Creeek for wide open easy blue terrain (intermediate); the cost for lodging; and the general experience of one vs. the other?  Many thanks!

 

Vail is far superior to Beaver Creek when it comes to the sheer number of blue runs and snow quality.While Beaver Creek is a 15 minute

drive away,Vail seems to get better snow conditions and more snow on average. I ski Vail all the time and dont even bother with Beaver Creek anymore. Beaver Creek's blue runs get icier much faster then any Vail run,even though Vail is busier . Ill never forget one day my son-in-law

went to Beaver Creek after three days of significant snowfall. I coulnt believe how icy it was early on and that year was a very good snow year.

We left at noon and went back to Vail that day,which was not icy at all after noon.

 

Lodging is expensive but I would stay in the Vail Village which is alot more fun then any of the areas in Beaver Creek.The Christiana Lodge

is right near the base where the new gondola is.

post #5 of 25

the OP was looking for "easy blue" blue runs; I assumed by default this means groomers. Grooming at the beav' is exceptional and I have skied there for many years. I cannot dissagree more with the comment on how the beav's runs are more icy than vail.  this is simply not factual. 

post #6 of 25
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I stand behind my opinion that Beaver Creek
gets icier more quickly the Vail . I have not skied
The Bachelor Gulch area so I can't comment on that area
but I've skied the rest .
post #7 of 25
I also think you can't make a generalization about snow quality between the two resorts. Like anything winter related it changes day to day and year to year.

Ice in Colorado is a relative term too. The OP being from the Northeast (like me) laugh at what westerners call "ice."

Beaver Creek does have some great terrain, and is much better for beginners than Vail.
post #8 of 25
I've skied the area for about 25 years about 40 days yearly and IMO Vail has consistently better
snow conditions then Beaver Creek .
post #9 of 25

since Bachelor gulch is connected to the beav off of strawberry, how is it possible you have skied there for 25 years 40 days a season and not made it to that half of the mountain

post #10 of 25
The area I'm talking about is all the way on the right looking uphill. . I t must be the arrowhead section
Area looked flat . I've been on the strawberry left many times
post #11 of 25
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

since Bachelor gulch is connected to the beav off of strawberry, how is it possible you have skied there for 25 years 40 days a season and not made it to that half of the mountain

 

Oh I havent skied Beaver Creek in about 7 years cause it is is not even close to Vail when it comes to

skiing,apres ski,etc. I would not give an edge to Beaver Creek on any aspect of the ski vacation other

then its quieter and not as busy.

 

And that little village in Beaver Creek is boring!!!

 

The Back Bowls alone are enough to convince anyone to ski at Vail . I have never heard anyone tell me they preferred Beav

 

er Creek over Vail

with the exception of two kids about 7 years old on two different occasions and the question has come up quite a bit on lift rides.

 

 

I would suggest to Michael to ski mostly at Vail and then ski one day at Beaver Creek.

post #12 of 25

I've skied Vail & BC for about 25 years and know both mountains well.

 

Given the criteria of the original poster, I think Beaver is a better option due to less crowding and lots of easy blues.  Neither place will have cheap lodging but you can always find deals.  Both places generally have very good snow conditions.  However, Beaver has more of its terrain at lower elevation so there are times when the conditions are better at Vail.  As for the resort towns, Beaver is more tranquil and family oriented where as Vail has more going on with a more diverse population.

 

Despite my recommendation for Beaver, I prefer to ski Vail.  If the poster is more upper intermediate (skis steeper terrain and full ski days) or better, I recommend Vail and focus on getting to the backside and blue sky blues.  If you do Beaver you can take a bus or drive to Vail in under 30 minutes.

post #13 of 25

I like both Vail and Beaver creek. However, although Vail has the back bowls (which are great), it also has the pay parking and sometimes huge crowds. For me, crowds are enough of a negative to cancel out a fair amount of positives.   

post #14 of 25

Vail is probably the best intermediate mountain on the planet... 

post #15 of 25
Vail is a great mountain for intermediates but it's not an intermediate mountain. It may not be Jackson Hole, but it has plenty of advanced terrain.

The thing is that it is just an experience, every day is an exploration, not an up-down, up-down.

You take a lift or two to the top, then ski down the backside, then catwalk over to a lift that takes you up the mountain behind it (Blue Sky Basin.)

Then it's let's do some runs back here, then find our way back to the bottom of the China Bowl and take that lift up to the Two Elks lodge, then maybe work our way down the front or to mid vail.

There are blue runs to get you to and from most places, and plenty of chances to venture off and right back on.

There's just nothing like it. I've skied there over 100 times and still am not tired of it. The only ski area I've been to that has the same feeling of vastness is Squaw Valley (but there's a lot of places I haven't skied.)

Beaver Creek is very cool, the ski along the ridge to the different areas connected to it are nice. Plenty of good terrain. But looking out over the back bowls at Vail and saying "were were over there before" is a unique experience not to be missed.
post #16 of 25
As far as crowds on the hill if you stay away from certain areas at certain times you'll be fine. Yes the liftlines at mid-vail can be pretty bad, but you don't need to go there when they're like that. I've never felt crowded on the slope (except for the Flapjack, a big wide green in the Northwoods area.)
post #17 of 25
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Vail is probably the best intermediate mountain on the planet...

Certainly #1 in North America, and that does not mean it lacks appeal for advanced skiers.  As in the other post I agree with SkiMangoJazz' advice too.  You're there for a week, you'll ski both places.  Over 7 days I'd most likely be skiing Vail vs. Beaver Creek 5-to-2.  Snowfall increases as you approach Vail Pass.   Vail is so huge you can notice this difference in China Bowl/Blue Sky vs. Lionshead.  Vail sprawls upward while Beaver has those separate base areas.  I suspect Bachelor Gulch and Arrowhead have some snowmaking dependence; that might result in the "icy" comments if it hasn't snowed in a while.  But aside from Vail usually getting more on powder days, surface conditions should often be similar between the areas, with Beaver assisted some by its lower traffic.

post #18 of 25

we are looking to go to vail the first week of march, can you guys suggest some places to stay? ski in ski out

post #19 of 25
I hope you have a lot of money, ski in ski out at Vail is going to cost a fortune!
post #20 of 25

Christiana in Vail Village is very nice . All lodging near the gondolas is expensive but I think this place is better then the Lodge at Vail. And others
post #21 of 25

I believe Eagle County has a bus service between them.  You can ski both.

post #22 of 25

Skiing good at both.  More skiing at Vail.  Ice  issues can occur at both depending on freeze/thaw, overall temperature,  whether you have sun to soften it up; and hard to deal with in anything but moderate blue unless edges are kept tuned.  My personal experience is that Vail gets icier, well, just maybe harder to ski - - - when it is icy and there hasn't been much new in awhile.  Not so much of same issue at Beaver Creek, and I mean the same runs mentioned above (Batch, Arrow).   All of it is better with good snow, but that isn't all the time.

 

I like the boring, and much less expensive, village near Beaver Creek (i.e., Avon), rent a condo somewhere around there, and take buses.  Don't really care for Vail (other than skiing).

post #23 of 25

I've never been there, and I am researching the same location for me too, and stumbled upon cheap pricing for lodging: Search online for "Super 8 Leadville"... I am getting only $66/night. And according to their bus system, they do have transportation between Leadville, Vail and Beaver Creek.

post #24 of 25
I'm not looking for the cheapest I can find. I'd like to have ski-in/ski-out. But it's not a deal breaker if its not.
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by JamesX521 View Post

I've never been there, and I am researching the same location for me too, and stumbled upon cheap pricing for lodging: Search online for "Super 8 Leadville"... I am getting only $66/night. And according to their bus system, they do have transportation between Leadville, Vail and Beaver Creek.

Be careful here.  It's an option but Leadville to Vail is an hour by car and 90 minutes by bus.  The bus also only runs at odd times (6 am is the last leadville to vail departure)  The drive requires going over a pass too which could make travel even longer in snow.  I think you'd be much better off staying closer even if it's a little more.

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