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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

I recently bought the Nordica Soul Rider (Blem sale) 185 cm / 97 under foot and now I am on to bindings for my recent acquisition. The Start Haus guys (Phil & another one) have been very helpful (and I can easily recommend them if anyone is interested) and he has given me 3 bindings to choose from.  He said there was little difference in the quality of the 3, and after reading a few reviews online, he seems to be correct.

 

I wanted to post the 3 choices here to help me decide which to get, but also, I am trying to learn about the gear and the differences between different features and I figured this was the best way to start learning about bindings. I have 4 kids that will all be skiers - 2 already are - so I want to know what I'm dealing with when it comes to their skis. Plus, its just interesting to me.

 

I am 6' 200 lbs - athletic build. When with kids, I'm on groomed blues. When not with kids I am trying to improve my back country / powder and moguls skiing. I've skied for almost 20 years, missing only a few years and going down blacks (poorly) from day 3.

 

The 3 bindings are:

 

1. Look PX

 

2. Salomon sth 12

 

3. Fisher x13 (I think this is a 2012 binding where the other 2 were 2013s - don't quote me on that).

 

Right now, I'm leaning towards the Look PX simply because of the color. I so feel like a girl for saying that as that's how my wife would pick her skis - or more importantly - her ski clothes to look cute in. But hey, if there is no difference, why not get the look you like!

 

Also, after I get the bindings, when / where should I take them to be mounted? I'm in the Austin, TX area and I ski Wolf Creek / Pagosa Springs, CO. I am uncomfortable doing this part myself.

 

Again, Thanks Phil and Start Haus. Hope to hear what everyone has to say.

 

Hippo

post #2 of 16

Honestly, if it was me I would probably pick the cheapest of the 3.  All 3 are quality bindings and will serve you well.

post #3 of 16

Personal preference, I like the PX, but would feel absolutely confident in all three you mentioned.

post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 

Two of them are the same price; the last year model is like $15 cheaper.

post #5 of 16

Small beers.. go with the one that matches! cool.gif

post #6 of 16

Think about resale value or use it as an excuse. Get the matching ones.

post #7 of 16

Resale?  th_dunno-1[1].gif

 

So when you're buying new skis and bindings, resale is on your mind....odd

post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Hippopook View Post

I recently bought the Nordica Soul Rider (Blem sale) 185 cm / 97 under foot and now I am on to bindings for my recent acquisition. The Start Haus guys (Phil & another one) have been very helpful (and I can easily recommend them if anyone is interested) and he has given me 3 bindings to choose from.  He said there was little difference in the quality of the 3, and after reading a few reviews online, he seems to be correct. . .

 

Phil is correct.

 

The 3 bindings are:

 

1. Look PX

 

2. Salomon sth 12

 

3. Fisher x13 (I think this is a 2012 binding where the other 2 were 2013s - don't quote me on that).

 

Right now, I'm leaning towards the Look PX simply because of the color. I so feel like a girl for saying that as that's how my wife would pick her skis - or more importantly - her ski clothes to look cute in. But hey, if there is no difference, why not get the look you like!

 

Either (a) choose the one that looks the best (b) choose the cheapest of the 3 or (c) let Phil choose.  Seriously.  It doesn't matter - you'd never perceive a performance difference between the 3 and all 3 are reliable.

 

Also, after I get the bindings, when / where should I take them to be mounted? I'm in the Austin, TX area and I ski Wolf Creek / Pagosa Springs, CO. I am uncomfortable doing this part myself.

 

Where?  A ski shop.  Pay +/- $25 to have it done right.  If Start Haus has the skis and the bindings, wouldn't they mount them if you gave them your boot length/make?  Or take the skis, bindings and one boot to:

  • Sun & Ski Sports in Austin, Texas, 2438 W. Anderson Lane at Burnet Rd., (W. Anderson Plaza Shopping Center)Austin, TX 78757, Phone: (512) 467-2782

 

 

No basis for that shop recommendation, but I found them in a 20 second search of the web. The ability to mount skis is binary.  A shop can either do it competently or not.  I tend to give a specialty shop the benefit of the doubt on this one.

When?  Now!  It is snowing in the PNW today.beercheer.gif  Have an awesome season skiing with the kids.

 

 

 

Again, Thanks Phil and Start Haus. Hope to hear what everyone has to say.

 

Hippo

post #9 of 16

They're all quality bindings, have owned the Look and the Fischer/Tyrolia, but note they're also the lower DIN versions for lighter or less aggressive skiers (unclear about the Look). I'm dubious about the retention of the Salomon and Fischer for a 200 lb skier who hits bumps and soft snow on a ski this width. I had some issues with the Fischer 13, in fact, at 165 lbs in soft snow. IMO they're all work fine on groomers, but the Look - even if the 12 - has better elasticity, a small but clear advantage in the terrain you're talking about. Or pony up for a beefier binding. 

post #10 of 16

Choose whichever one is cheapest or looks the nicest on your skis.  They're all good and you're thinking too much.

post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

They're all quality bindings, have owned the Look and the Fischer/Tyrolia, but note they're also the lower DIN versions for lighter or less aggressive skiers (unclear about the Look). I'm dubious about the retention of the Salomon and Fischer for a 200 lb skier who hits bumps and soft snow on a ski this width. I had some issues with the Fischer 13, in fact, at 165 lbs in soft snow. IMO they're all work fine on groomers, but the Look - even if the 12 - has better elasticity, a small but clear advantage in the terrain you're talking about. Or pony up for a beefier binding. 

This is the kind of post I was looking for...Thanks. Also Lewy - thanks for the comprehensive reply. I wasn't sure if I had to be very selective on who mounted them.

 

Last question I think: my boots are somewhat old (10+ years) - any issues here that I need to be aware of or will they work just fine with new bindings - assuming I'm going with the Look.

post #12 of 16
Cheapest that matches your skis.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by Hippopook View Post

This is the kind of post I was looking for...Thanks. Also Lewy - thanks for the comprehensive reply. I wasn't sure if I had to be very selective on who mounted them.

 

Last question I think: my boots are somewhat old (10+ years) - any issues here that I need to be aware of or will they work just fine with new bindings - assuming I'm going with the Look.

If the boot soles are very worn there might be a problem--it's possible the toe and or heel inserts--if there are any--could have to be replaced.  Excessively worn boots won't work properly with the bindings and a shop won't mount them.  That's why the shop needs the boot(s)--not just the sole length. You'' just have to see what the shop says.

post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

They're all quality bindings, have owned the Look and the Fischer/Tyrolia, but note they're also the lower DIN versions for lighter or less aggressive skiers (unclear about the Look). I'm dubious about the retention of the Salomon and Fischer for a 200 lb skier who hits bumps and soft snow on a ski this width. I had some issues with the Fischer 13, in fact, at 165 lbs in soft snow. IMO they're all work fine on groomers, but the Look - even if the 12 - has better elasticity, a small but clear advantage in the terrain you're talking about. Or pony up for a beefier binding. 

 

Beyond

 

If your Fischer (Tyrolia) DIN 13's have the "diagonal heel" (the heel that can be moved to the left or right) I suspect that's the cause of your "dubious retention" problem.  Turning the DIN up a notch addresses the issue for me.  Sollys have a fixed heel, so they shouldn't have the same retention issue as the 12-14 DIN Fischer/Tyrolia bindings.  The Mojo (also Tyrolia made) bindings with DIN 15+ use a fixed heel.

 

Personally, I would go with the Look or Solly bindings that Phil suggested.

 

STE

post #15 of 16
I thought it was only the din11 heel that had the diagonal release.
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

I thought it was only the din11 heel that had the diagonal release.

 

Hello markojp

 

DIN 12-14 have the diagonal toe and heel.  DIN 11 had diagonal toe, but not heel.

 

Check these links to see the differences.

 

Mojo 11: http://www.levelninesports.com/Head-Mojo-11-Ski-Bindings-W-Wide-Brake-Matte-Blacksilver

 

Railflex 12:  http://www.levelninesports.com/Head-Railflex-Rfd-12-Speedrail-Ski-Bindings

 

Railflex 14:  http://www.levelninesports.com/Head-Railflex-Rfd-14-Silver-Blk-Adjustable-Ski-Bindings

 

Freeflex 15 with the "diagonal toe" and "Race Pro Heel" (same heel as Mojo 15):  http://www.levelninesports.com/Tyrolia-Freeflex-Pro-15-Ski-Bindings

 

STE

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