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One fits all ski for lightweight skier

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hi all of you,


I'm new here and looking for some advice on a new ski.

My current quiver is a 2005 Elan MO2 and some older Salomon 3v race department. But since those are wearing out and packing two pair of ski's becomes more and more an issue (kids with their ski's and sleds are take some space in the car too), I'm looking for a pair of ski's that combine some freestyle spirit and hard pack fun in the same time.


I'm a lightweight and not really tall (127lbs and 5'7") so really stiff ski's are not my favorite. My skilevel is quite good (have some racing experience), but in the park and powder I'm more a starter.


Does someone has a good advice? Armada ARV or Triumph, would that be something? And in lenght, I'm thinking of 170-175, would that be okay?


Thanks for your help!

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post #2 of 12

Welcome to EpicSki!  Where do you usually ski?

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 



I usually ski in Europe (Austria and France). Conditions can vary from soft snow, to ice and freece-thaw conditions all season long.


I usually ski on the slopes, but like to go for a jump inthe park (switch landings, so the ski's should be twintips) and take a taste of off-piste now and then. Both park and off-piste are not my specialties, but given the fact that I spend 50-60% on the slopes, a real off-piste ski won't be paying off I guess.


I'm looking mostly for a ski to replace my old mo2's and which can also be used for on-piste riding, so I would like them to be stable on the slopes at higher speeds, but they shouldn't be too stiff either because I can't put in some weight to bend them

post #4 of 12

Hi. Very close to your size and background here: 5' 7" 135lbs. As has been said over and over here, there is no such thing as "one fits all"; everything is a compromise. I'm not going to try to suggest any specific "split the difference" model, because, unlike you, I don't really do park stuff and would be guessing about that aspect. A guy who races - presumably with some pretty sophisticated carving chops - and is coming off Salomon 3Vs, who also wants a twin tip that he can ride switch on in the park ... that's a tall order.


I will say that your proposed length range (170 - 175) might be right for some skis, but might be on the long side for others, given your weight. Instead of setting a length range in advance, I suggest that you look at the range of sizes in which a particular model is made. At your size, you want to be below the middle - probably the 2nd-shortest size in a range of 5, the shortest in a range of 3,  and the shortest or next-to-shortest in a range of 4. The size might be a 163 in one model and a 173 in a different model, depending on a bunch of design factors. If you're on the cusp, terrain can help break the tie: shorter for tight trees and bumps; longer for open bowls and higher speeds. The other thing to watch out for is bias in ski tests in major magazines such as (here in the U.S.) Ski or Skiing. My observation over the years is that the tests favor stiff, beefy skis over what one might call "finesse" skis. A recent example is the Nordica Hell & Back, which tons of people rave about, but which I found way too stiff and planky in off-piste conditions. (It was great on the groomers, but you don't buy a 98mm ski to spend all your time on piste.) For what it's worth, I've never been on a properly sized Dynastar that felt too stiff for me; they just seem to know how to set up flex patterns for smaller people.

post #5 of 12

 You might consider looking at the longer womens skis, slightly softer flexing and built for lighter weights. They don't all come in pink with butterflies on. My friends 17 yr old boy ended up on K2 tough luvs cos hes so slightly built. He gets on great with them.

post #6 of 12

Hi, I was in the same boat as you. I am 6'2" and 165 pounds. I used to be 5'11" and 125 pounds while I was in high school. Either way, I had a pair of Rossignol Scratch Skis, 175 cm, I believe. And these skis were awesome. They are twin tip and did fairly well in everything I put them through. They were very soft and handled great in the on-piste and off-piste. My only problem was when I encountered ice with them, I tended to skid a bit more than my other skis, although that might have been because I didn't know about sharpening the edges quite yet. I know they are an older design (5 years old or so), so you might want to look into whatever ski proceeded that one. Just an idea, though.

post #7 of 12
Take a look at skis from Goode.
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all your replies.


I've always liked the salomon 3v's because the relatively soft feeling and still having more than enough pop to give back the energy/acceleration in the turns. I've tested atomics and head slalom racers in the past but I just couldn't get them round the poles.

The MO2's were a little strange: quite stiff under the bindings, flappy in midsection and stiff at the tips. Great for on piste and (switch) landings, but a little too stiff in my experience.


I've been looking around and came to a little shortlist:

- Salomon Dumont Pro Pipe (171)

- Armada ARV (165, too short?)

- Armada Pipe Cleaner (171)

- Armada ARW (166, too short? But really cheap, 10/11 modell so not really flowers and butterflies)

- K2 Kung Fujas (169, or 179 since the ski is rockered?)


As you can see, I'm a little in doubt considering the "skier weight/length of ski" ratio  :)

Do you have any comments/recommendations?



post #9 of 12

Light is right - DPS Wailer 99 in Pure construction - 168cm:


The Wailer 99 is the Daily Driver, redefined. The Wailer 99 is set to become the new standard for all-mountain/all-condition shapes. Based on the award-winning Wailer 112RP platform, the Wailer 99 exhibits similar versatility in a narrower package. TheWailer 99 utilizes the Wailer 112's 3-D PaddleTech Geometry™—DPS’ original blend of rocker and variable sidecut.  PaddleTech Geometry™ allows the skier to engage the Wailer 99's slightly cambered 18m underfoot turn radius while charging g-loaded carves on harder snow. When the snow becomes mixed or soft, the skier draws on the gradually rockered paddle sections of the tip and tail to access longer, variable turn radii, slarves, and off-edge control. The Wailer 99 gives you the best of on-edge and off-edge performance, and the ability to get creative in the most versatile 100mm underfoot package ever designed.

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks, but unfortunately the DPS doesn't quite fit my budget :)


The ski's I mentioned all come with a good deal (some even real cheap). Anyone can advise me on those (or other ones that can be bought in Europe)?

post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hi all,


I figured 170 is minimum length for twins, so my shortlist needs an update.

I've found some good deals on these ski's:

- Coreupt Yard

- Faction Kennedy

- Faction Wednesday

- Armada Pipe Cleaner

- Salomon Dumont


Any ideas on (one of) these ski's?



post #12 of 12

A little late here, but the Nordica Steadfast might well suit you.  It's a lightweight ski, no metal sheet in it, 90mm waist and early rise tip.  I'm 5' 7" 145 pounds and this is my daily driver.  I ski mostly off piste but when I get on a groomer the edge grip is great, does really nice high speed GS turns.  It also handles well in the bumps, or at least well enough for me.  I ski the 170cm.  If you want something wider, the Hell and Back is basically a 98mm version.  Try them if you can.  Not a twin tip though if that's important.

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