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Boots in Car East vs West ??

post #1 of 68
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This came up in my post in the beginners tip bible thread.

 

I admit I am an eastern guy. I have only been out west once. It was awesome but I can drive to about 10 very very nice mountains in <3 hrs. About 20 in 5 hrs. Hard to justify the trip. :)

 

A fellow bear says putting on boots in the lodge is a gaper move out west.

 

So - help me out...

What is the appeal of putting on boots in the car out west? Are the lodge facilities not comfortable or too crowded?

 

I much prefer wearing my pac books to the lodge and limiting the parking lot crud/grind on my carefully alligned and canted boots. Ditto on the walk back to the car in the pm. Let's face it, removing one's boots after a ski day is one of life's sublime pleasures.

 

Any thoughts on this?  :)

post #2 of 68
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Originally Posted by pat View Post


A fellow bear says putting on boots in the lodge is a gaper move out west.

 

 

Nonsense!

post #3 of 68
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Originally Posted by cfr View Post

 

Nonsense!

 

It's only a gaper move if you are late to the lift line on a powder day.  None of us would allow that to happen though...

post #4 of 68

If you can put your boots on in the parking lot and leave your street shoes in the car all day without them freezing, then, imo it is not cold enough for good powder skiing conditions.

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It's only a gaper move if you are late to the lift line on a powder day ......

 

...... and quit early. 

post #6 of 68
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Originally Posted by champagneforbreakfast View Post

 

It's only a gaper move if you are late to the lift line on a powder day.  None of us would allow that to happen though...


Being late to the lift on a powder day is a gaper move by itself biggrin.gif

post #7 of 68
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Originally Posted by pat View Post

This came up in my post in the beginners tip bible thread.

 

I admit I am an eastern guy. I have only been out west once. It was awesome but I can drive to about 10 very very nice mountains in <3 hrs. About 20 in 5 hrs. Hard to justify the trip. :)

 

A fellow bear says putting on boots in the lodge is a gaper move out west.

 

So - help me out...

What is the appeal of putting on boots in the car out west? Are the lodge facilities not comfortable or too crowded?

 

I much prefer wearing my pac books to the lodge and limiting the parking lot crud/grind on my carefully alligned and canted boots. Ditto on the walk back to the car in the pm. Let's face it, removing one's boots after a ski day is one of life's sublime pleasures.

 

Any thoughts on this?  :)


The only thing gaper about that scenario is caring what anyone else thinks. Do what works for you.

 

That being said, putting your boots on in the car gets you onto the hill faster than carrying your boots into the lodge, finding a locker, etc.

post #8 of 68

locker costs $6+ day.   If it were a free locker, I'd boot up in the lodge....

post #9 of 68

I carry my boots because it can be a very long walk from the parking lots at Stevens and Crystal (or take the parking lot shuttle at Crystal).  Even if I get there early, parking can be a long hike.  Ironically, when I wait until noon or later and stay for night skiing I can often snag a much closer parking spot.

 

But I digress....

 

At Crystal, get a cheap coin-op lockers ($1).   At Stevens, boot up in the lodge, hang a back pack with my walking boots/shoes on a peg in the lodge (easier to do on the upper level) and leave it all day.  For some reason, no one steals your smelly footwear in the PNW.   Is that a problem in the East?

post #10 of 68

Locker??? Who uses a locker............. my "Walk to lodge boots" are so gnarly that it would be a pleasure if someone dared to steal them!............... Leave your extra gear under a table and forget about it!  99% of us skiers (and boarders) are good people and not going to steal your stuff! Maybe those derelict Tele guys w/ all that facial hair , patches on their clothing and monster quads are thieves! ..... but not the rest of us! :) I haven't used a locker and actually locked it anywhere east or west in over 25 years!

post #11 of 68

Skiing both east and west, I have never put on boots in the parking lot nor paid for a locker. Put your bag in cubbies, on a peg, etc., and it will be fine. At the "resorts" who don't believe in a base lodge find their "lockers" area, or their place where they "let" you eat  your own food, and put your bag in there. Never had an issue. People who tend to think that putting on your boots in the parking lot is a great idea probably have boots that are too big duel.gif

 

But seriously ... do what works for you.
 

post #12 of 68

Or walk in your crocs and leave them somewhere in the lodge... problem is they are so cool that people might wanna steal! If I'm not really close to where I can put my skis on, I won't walk on ski boots, it's just terrible walking on skis boots!

post #13 of 68
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A fellow bear says putting on boots in the lodge is a gaper move out west.

 

 

Baloney!  Out here (Rockies) it's the gapers that boot up in the parking lot.  You can tell the 'real' skiers because their boots are attached to their packs as they enter the lodge, and they don't let their boots touch anything that will damage the interface with the binding.

post #14 of 68

Reasons to put boots on in the parking lot:

 

  1. You park in a lot where you can ski to the ticket window/lift (C-lot @ Mary Jane for instance) kinda hard to do if you don't have your ski boots on.
  2. You have to ride the shuttle from parking lot (like at Copper or Taos) to base and it's a royal pain to carry boots or boot bag along with skis and poles and any other stuff like backpack or lunch.
  3. The base is nearly next to car and no need to put shoes in a locker or hidden under bench, etc. because it's so close
  4. There's a ton of snow and your feet will get wet and cold in your driving shoes getting to the lodge
  5. You have the most wonderful Hot Gear Bag plugged into the outlet in the back of your car and you can put your footsies in nice, soft, toasty ski boots hot from the "oven" and then put your shoes in there to stay (relatively) warm from the residual heat.
post #15 of 68

i think it's less about stealing, and more that the actual staff has to keep a clean trip-free area.  There's not always a leave your stuff here open cubby area.  Plus they cannot have a free area that would cannibalize the profits from lucrative locker rentals.

post #16 of 68

Doesn't the walking distance to the nearest run make a difference to anyone? In my favorite parking lot at my home resort the nearest run is literally adjacent to the parking space. In that case, I put on my boots in the car, hop onto the run, and ski off. If I were to arrive late (not likely) and the parking lot were full, I would have to park a long ways off. In that case, I might carry my boots up to the Lodge because I don't want to walk 500 yards in my ski boots. In neither case would I give a shit if you thought I was a gaper or not.

post #17 of 68

 I hope it snows soon. 

post #18 of 68

Personally, I believe strongly that putting warm feet into warm boots is the most important thing, right next to dressing warmly, when it comes to having warm feet.  So, putting my boots on out in the parking lot would be a major no-no.  Even though I generally park in row A, I still carry my boots inside to put them on.  

post #19 of 68

You couldn't pay me to boot up in the parking lot.....  nonono2.gif

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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

 I hope it snows soon. 

LOL. This thread definitely screams, "Thinking about skiing, but no damn snow yet."

post #21 of 68
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LOL. This thread definitely screams, "Thinking about skiing, but no damn snow yet."

We've got a skiff on the mountain tops in B.C.

post #22 of 68

I boot up in the parking lot always.  Last season I did a yard sale in front of 10 people walking on solid ice in my boots.  Got laughed at for crashing before I even put my skis on. I would boot up in the lodge if I had a locker for sure.

post #23 of 68

I usually boot up in the lodge, but clutter under the tables is a pet peeve of mine.  Some places have a bunch of pegs so you can hang bags out of the way.  Unfortunately most people are too clueless to get the idea.

post #24 of 68
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Originally Posted by exracer View Post

 

Baloney!  Out here (Rockies) it's the gapers that boot up in the parking lot.  You can tell the 'real' skiers because their boots are attached to their packs as they enter the lodge, and they don't let their boots touch anything that will damage the interface with the binding.

 

It's settled! All ski instructors are gapers. While I certainly had a locker, my boots constantly came into contact with things that were damaging to them. Concrete, steps, tater tots, etc.

post #25 of 68

True gapers boot up in the rental shop.

post #26 of 68

Wait a minute. You live 3 hours from a few Eastern resorts and 5 from some others, so it's hard to justify skiing in the West? 

post #27 of 68

It doesn't matter where you put your boots on.  Different situations require different tactics.  Sometimes, the parking lot is your best option.  Walking around a ski town at midnight, drunk, in your ski boots may or may not mark you as a gaper, but it's usually not a good idea. 

post #28 of 68

In Europe we have boots with a "dance" setting in addition to "walk" and "ski," so those are good to go all night. 

post #29 of 68
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Originally Posted by exracer View Post

 

Baloney!  Out here (Rockies) it's the gapers that boot up in the parking lot.  You can tell the 'real' skiers because their boots are attached to their packs as they enter the lodge, and they don't let their boots touch anything that will damage the interface with the binding.


I can tell the real skiers by the fact that they are in line ready to go. Not prancing around the lodge.

post #30 of 68
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post


 prancing around the lodge.

HEY!!!! I resemble that remark!!! LOL............. you forgot w/ Hot Cocoa in tow!

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