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post #1 of 19
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Hey everyone...

 

My son, age 18, 6', 175 lbs., size 11.5 feet, learned how to snowboard in the last couple of years and prefers (stubbornly) to stay with his Ride Manic (W) snowboard... about 162 cm or so. The board is beginning to get a little worn and I'd like to get him something comparable.... a directional, wide, medium flex (about 6), sintered-bottom board that is used only for fron-side groomers (no parks or powder).  Is there another Ride board, other than the Manic, that is very close?  And, what is your opinion of the Manic?  Thanks!

post #2 of 19

I've demo'd some pretty decent boards from Ride.  I can't find anything that I wrote down for the Manic though.  Ride has several models that are directional free ride.  Is he wanting to stick with a cambered deck or is he in favor of a rocker hybrid style camber profile?

post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 

Thanks, KillClimbz!  He actually prefers the more traditional camber profile.

post #4 of 19

Well there is a problem with Ride's line up for him if he's a traditional camber guy.  They are not offering a traditional camber deck.  Everything is some sort of hybrid rocker combo.  The Manic is a straight up rocker profile.  The Highlife is their straight up hard charging freeride deck.  I've demo'd that model from a couple of years ago, but the profile has changed since.  It was a great deck when I demo'd it.  It has a hybrid profile.  Rocker and Camber.  The one closest to the camber profile I can fine is a new model the High Life.  It has a rocker nose and "Micro" camber under the feet to the tail.  The Wild life has the same nose but a flat base.  It's going to be hard to find a full camber profile these days.  Hybrids are all the rage.  I have to say I am enjoying a lot of the profiles myself.  Boards are much more lively, and are just killing it in powder.  Still, for just running laps on hard pack, a cambered deck is hard to beat.  Especially if you are not playing around with butters and that sort of thing.

post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 

Thank you.  I think I got the Ride Manic in Nov. 2011.  Wouldn't that make it a camber board?  Could they have switched to a rocker for that model so soon, or was it likely a camber/rocker in the first place?  I'm not sure. 

post #6 of 19

If it's a 2011 board it has the Low Rize Rocker profile.  Rockered nose, flat base with maybe a bell or a whistle here and there.  If it's the 2010 model, it's a straight up Camber deck.  I am guessing that if you got a good deal on it, it was probably a last year model.  If you paid close to full pop, than it was probably a 2011.  It shouldn't be hard to tell what profile it is, just look at it from the side.  If it's arched face down, it's going to be the 2010 or earlier.  If it's a straight line with a fairly up turned nose, you know you got the 2011. 

 

The Manic is a beginner to intermediate level entry board.  It might be time to upgrade him to a little higher end.  That is why I brought up the Highlife and Wild Life seem to be the best matches for what you are describing.  They both come in wides.  Of course with the upgrade there is an upgrade in price, but ya got to bite that bullet sometime.  Riding on gear you've outgrown gets to be a bit much after awhile. 
 

You might also look at Smokin', Neversummer, Lib Tech, Arbor, and K2.  All have solid boards for what you son is into. 

post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 

Many thanks!  All sounds like wise advice.  I am grateful for your comments and recommendations!

post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post

If it's a 2011 board it has the Low Rize Rocker profile.  Rockered nose, flat base with maybe a bell or a whistle here and there.  If it's the 2010 model, it's a straight up Camber deck.  I am guessing that if you got a good deal on it, it was probably a last year model.  If you paid close to full pop, than it was probably a 2011.  It shouldn't be hard to tell what profile it is, just look at it from the side.  If it's arched face down, it's going to be the 2010 or earlier.  If it's a straight line with a fairly up turned nose, you know you got the 2011. 

 

The Manic is a beginner to intermediate level entry board.  It might be time to upgrade him to a little higher end.  That is why I brought up the Highlife and Wild Life seem to be the best matches for what you are describing.  They both come in wides.  Of course with the upgrade there is an upgrade in price, but ya got to bite that bullet sometime.  Riding on gear you've outgrown gets to be a bit much after awhile. 
 

You might also look at Smokin', Neversummer, Lib Tech, Arbor, and K2.  All have solid boards for what you son is into. 

 

One other question.... what do you think of the Ride Berzerker board?  This is a little softer flex (7) than either the Highlife or Wild Life, and he might have a little easier time adjusting to it.  Thanks!

post #9 of 19

Arbor has a full camber deck i would suggest,  the Roundhouse CX  in a 163. Just throwing that out because straight camber decks are a bit harder to find. Plus the full wood grain top sheet is pretty  to look and stare at. Just to keep the topic in hand unfortunately the only Ride snowboard i have ridden is the Slackcountry  which was an absolute dream to ride on on a deep day.

 

 

 

 

Arbor: Roundhouse CX 

http://arborcollective.com/snow/boards/view/40/roundhouse-cx

post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 

Thank you, Snowdruid. ( And I was wrong about the length...it's 156W not 161W).  But nonetheless I'll also take a look at the Arbor which you mention.  I did inspect his Ride board more carefully and it is a full camber.  Last season he snowboarded quite a bit, but he still says he thinks he's at the lower levels, skill-wise.  He's reluctant to give up what he already knows he has in his current board and doesn't want to buy another one until he's sure of his "skill-memory".  On the other hand, I would like to get him something that will take him up a notch, if you know what I mean.  The Manic has been a good board but I think there are other Rides (and maybe the Arbor) or rocker/camber board that would suite him well.

post #11 of 19

True and good luck in your search, best way to find a new board is to demo a few and see if there is any that he like more. I did that looking for a new board and i fell in love with my Never Summer Premier F1. Its a directional board with rocker and camber combo, very solid feeling and stable at speed. Not a lot of pop which is the only drawback i can tell about the board, oh and it needs alot of wax. ^_^ 

post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by SnowDruid View Post

True and good luck in your search, best way to find a new board is to demo a few and see if there is any that he like more. I did that looking for a new board and i fell in love with my Never Summer Premier F1. Its a directional board with rocker and camber combo, very solid feeling and stable at speed. Not a lot of pop which is the only drawback i can tell about the board, oh and it needs alot of wax. ^_^ 


Any of the Rocker/Camber profiles on the market these days have to be demoed before you drop $500 on one. They're very different rides.

 

I got the NS Raptor last April and there's a definite adjustment.

post #13 of 19

Most people will have an easier time controlling one of the hybrid boards than they will with a cambered deck.  The rocker just makes initiated a turn much easier.  Higher speeds is where most run into trouble. Rocker hybrids can get a little loose.  Most people won't have problems and adjust easily enough.  Did I mention that the rocker camber profiles overall are just damn fun?  I really haven't seen a need for a cambered deck in a few years now.  Though my riding is much more geared to off piste/backcountry than most these days.

The Bezerker looks like a good match btw.  It might actually be a very good fit.  It comes down to how much of a step up your son wants to do. 

post #14 of 19

I switched to a NS Raptor X 164 cm, 2 seasons ago from full camber and really love it. It did take some adjustment. I think your son would love the new type of boards, rocker/camber, camber rocker, what ever, boards. (Someone mentioned the F1 not having much pop, Raptor has loads of pop)

In any case, main reasons are the ease of turning, and moguls are now just plain fun.  Moguls are so much more fun, that I look for them. Carving for a new rider takes some time to learn and carving is easier with the new designs because you can initiate turns much quicker.  High speed is Ok, but I don't think that is much of an issue for an intermediate. You could get a board that is too loose for an intermediate, so a demo is probably recommended

Never Summer boards are great - made in USA, 3 year warranty - but I am sure the others are also very nice.

Good luck

post #15 of 19

Other Never Summers to consider are the Cobra and Heritage. The Raptor is a very aggressive board, it’s built for the advanced/expert rider and can get away from you at times.

 

I demoed the Heritage last year and it’s a much more forgiving ride. It’s a great all around board. 

post #16 of 19
Thread Starter 

so...is the Never Summer Cobra also similar to the Heritage? 

post #17 of 19
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so...is the Never Summer Cobra also similar to the Heritage? 

 

Both are very similar in build, the Cobra is geared a bit towards freeriding with the end blunts, Heritage towards freestyle.

 

The really cool part about the Never Summers are the carbonium topsheets. It’s a much more durable build so it minimizes chips and scratches. 

post #18 of 19
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Nice to know about the top skeets.  My son's Ride is only about a year old and already there is som delamination along the top edges.  Which Board, the Cobra or the Heritage, would be a better step up from the Ride Manic for my son.  He's about 175 lbs, 6'1, and will need a Wide.  He's a progressing intermediate.

post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by Michaelfahlund View Post

Nice to know about the top skeets.  My son's Ride is only about a year old and already there is som delamination along the top edges.  Which Board, the Cobra or the Heritage, would be a better step up from the Ride Manic for my son.  He's about 175 lbs, 6'1, and will need a Wide.  He's a progressing intermediate.


I think the Heritage 163 Wide is great, but he'll have to demo it and decide for himself!

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