TheDad, you might look into Airport Mini Bus at www.bell-limo.com. I've never used them, but I've seen their buses around. My wife flies in and out of RNO a fair amount, and more often than not ends up using a car service for $100+. In my opinion, the poor connection between RNO and skiing is a liability for tourism in the region.
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2012 / 13 Tahoe Weather, Discussion & Stoke Thread - Page 22
Poll Results: Should we lock 2012-13 season stoke thread after Labor Day?
5 Total Votespost #631 of 12522/14/13 at 9:19am
80% (4)Yes - After Labor Day is a good time to get on to the next season
20% (1)No - I'm not done with this season yet
Gear mentioned in this thread:post #632 of 12522/14/13 at 10:39am
This long dry spell has pretty much destroyed the notion I had early January that 2013 might be a great second half ski season. So have stayed away a few weeks now. Not a fan of hard pack and icy sludge because unlike locals, I have a long ways to drive. But signs now at least the end of winter might hold some fun.
NWS the last few days has been noticing at long range some kind of minor low temp storm for next Tuesday that has firmed up a bit to maybe 2/3" liquid equivalent at Sierra Crest areas. And now they are mentioning possiblility of another front about Friday.post #633 of 12522/14/13 at 11:46amThread Starter
If we really get 1.5 - 2 feet on the crest with the Tuesday/Wednesday storm, that could be enough to reset things with another storm coming in later in the week.
Edited by JayT - 2/14/13 at 12:25pmpost #634 of 12522/14/13 at 3:38pm
Got some pretty sweet stuff beyond the ropes today. Pure corn bliss!
The sunny stuff is taking a hit though, we need snow. Still until then the skiing remains good I think anyway. When it comes in cold Sunday it will be notso good. Fingers crossed for next week!!!post #635 of 12522/14/13 at 6:17pmQuote:I ended up playing it safe and booking a car service. Ouch.Originally Posted by Xela
TheDad, you might look into Airport Mini Bus at www.bell-limo.com. I've never used them, but I've seen their buses around. My wife flies in and out of RNO a fair amount, and more often than not ends up using a car service for $100+. In my opinion, the poor connection between RNO and skiing is a liability for tourism in the region.post #636 of 12522/14/13 at 6:40pmpost #637 of 12522/14/13 at 9:37pmpost #638 of 12522/14/13 at 10:00pmpost #639 of 12522/15/13 at 6:08ampost #640 of 12522/15/13 at 11:38am
I'm new to the Tahoe area and missed all of the December snow, so I have a question.
Let's say that hypothetically it dumps a foot+ at Alpine on Tuesday, but it's not that windy. Will they stay open all day, or would they close for avy risk? Basically - if Tuesday is a big storm, would it be worth going up?post #641 of 12522/15/13 at 11:42amThread StarterQuote:Originally Posted by vitale232
I'm new to the Tahoe area and missed all of the December snow, so I have a question.
Let's say that hypothetically it dumps a foot+ at Alpine on Tuesday, but it's not that windy. Will they stay open all day, or would they close for avy risk? Basically - if Tuesday is a big storm, would it be worth going up?
I don't see them shutting down the mountain earlier than usual - it's going to snow hard for a bit but not *that* hard. They'll do most of the avy control work early Wednesday morning. The only reason any lifts are not likely to run would be from heavy winds.post #642 of 12522/15/13 at 11:50am
Welcome to EpicSki and Tahoe Vitale232.
As Jay said, they won't likely shut down the whole mountain, and may not shut down any of it if its not windy, but they may have some areas closed off if there is avy risk in a specific area. That's usually pretty minimal.post #643 of 12522/15/13 at 1:02pmA lot of times they shut down wide open terrain on top for visibility reasons, at least at Squaw they do. But if you know where to go its always worth skiing in a storm. if its really windy and they shut down the whole mountain, then you are screwed. On those day there is always Flatstar:-)post #644 of 12522/15/13 at 1:48pm
Sweet. Thanks, all. This site rocks. Already picked up a nice set of used skis, and now I'm getting solid advice.
I guess I'll have to wait and see what the wind forecast looks like. How windy does it usually take to shut down summit? 50mph+?
I've been diligently learning the mountain all season waiting for a big storm. Needless to say, I'm pumped. Hopefully this thing pans out!post #645 of 12522/15/13 at 1:54pmpost #646 of 12522/15/13 at 3:06pm
Right around 50MPH will shut summit--depends on wind direction as well. Sometimes Alpine Bowl will be open. Alpine web site is not usually a good way to figure out if they plan to run summit--they always plan to run summit, until they don't. Squaw seems to be a little better at predicting before the lifts open. Do you know this site? http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/rev/remotedata/ Click on the area you're interested in to get wind speeds and directions. Sometimes in or after a storm Alpine will open Wolverine from the D chutes but close Wolverine saddle because it's so easy to get lost and ski off the backside in whiteout conditions. I tried to do that one time and I'd skied it hundreds of times. Unfortunately you just have to ski these areas a lot in various conditions to get a feel for what may or may not be open. One thing you can count on--on a big storm day, KT22 lift line will be hand to hand, and ski to ski combat.post #647 of 12522/15/13 at 9:16pmQuote:
Thanks. It was actually last night.Quote:
At least the three primary factors -- lift safety, visibility, and avy risk -- tend to be heavily influenced by wind. Lift safety and viz are obvious, but avy risk is often a function of wind transport rather than snowfall.
Bear in mind that our maximum snowfall rate in this neck of the woods is about 3" per hour. Wind can move many multiples of that.
Also, think about the classic snowflake. When blown by the wind, the arms that spread out from the center tend to get knocked off. Pack those together and you have a much denser and more cohesive snowpack. A wInd slab atop a weak layer is prone to slide, and slide hard.post #648 of 12522/15/13 at 11:16pmQuote:
Which is why, with the east winds we've been having, what little new snow that's fallen since New Years at Squaw and Alpine is now in the Granite Chief Wilderness. Come to think of it, around here snow doesn't really fall, does it?post #649 of 12522/17/13 at 10:50am
Latest NWS forecast discussion has moved the storm away from its previous coastal trajectory to more inland. They upped precip on Tuesday evening at crest areas although forecast confidences this point are still low. PTO Wednesday me thinks?post #650 of 12522/17/13 at 4:17pmThread Starterpost #651 of 12522/17/13 at 6:07pmpost #652 of 12522/17/13 at 11:07pm
Today was OK spring snow on Sun Bowl but Red Dog was terrifying ice. Had a great time skiing with the family. But more snow is really needed to cover the thin spots and soften things up enough for me to edge. Does watching weather channel a lot up the chances for snow?
Ericpost #653 of 12522/18/13 at 2:57pm
Anyone care to hazard a long-term guess? Considering a trip at end of March - what do we think the conditions will be like? The opensnow long-range discussions sound optimistic but I'm afraid I get somewhat lost in the technical acronyms.
Thanks in advancepost #654 of 12522/18/13 at 3:56pmThread StarterMarch tends to be a good month in Tahoe... And after the jan/feb we've had so far I think the odds of a good march have increased.*
Northstar skied nicely today with the sun softening things. Looking forward to the storm tonight however.
* I realize that such a statement is statistically nonsense, but I'm going with it.
Edited by JayT - 2/18/13 at 6:06pmpost #655 of 12522/18/13 at 4:48pmQuote:
optimistic is as good as anyone can guess. Basically long term forecasts more than 14days out has the meterologists looking at proverbial butterflies flapping their wings over in hawaii, and then pseudo-comparing to what historically happened with those same dances.
Anyhoo, the optimism is that hawaiian butterfly looks like it's making the same moves as during december/new years which was nice and snowy.
Best as I can figure out the weather mumbo jumbo anyway.post #656 of 12522/18/13 at 8:50pm
Maybe studying polar bear habits in Alaska would be more productive. The storms that come from there usually dump nice snow.
Those from pacific in direction of Hawaii are called "Pineapple express" storms. They're warmer with heavy wet snow, or rain or both.
Mostly hard pack 2 & 3 weeks ago when I visited. A couple of 3 inch snows.
post #657 of 12522/18/13 at 10:47pm
Squaw was really firm today. Had the family with me and hooked up with some friends so I had a great day despite the snow. The finally comfortable boots helped (thanks to all the guys at Olympic Boot Fitting). But we really need snow. Hasn't started yet.
On a side note, Snoventures is getting quite interesting. The kids snow castle is a great idea. The band Saturday was fun and Sunday's marshmello roast had a lot of smiling kids. Mini snowmobiles, tubing, a magic carpet and a short lift serve a reliable bunny hill. Plus Far East is a great starting point close to the parking (and our cabin). I wonder what will happen there with the new development plans...
Ericpost #658 of 12522/19/13 at 7:07ampost #659 of 12522/19/13 at 8:27am
Not really seeing too much going on outside down here in slt but maybe it'll pick up later and suprise me. Radar shows some stuff but looks a little meh. Here's to hoping for some sort of decent consistency in the next couple weeks. My fat skis are collecting dust.
What's it been 7 weeks since the last significant snow? Sure are lucky December was kind to us. I personally am starting to feel that same sort of pent up frustration as last year, I have never in my life (40) lived somewhere where it goes so long without a decent storm...even New England. arghhhhh!!!
OK rant over, I'm going go skiing now....let it snow!!!post #660 of 12522/19/13 at 9:47am
The single biggest determinant of late March skiing quality is the midwinter snowpack. By that measure, you're screwed.
On the positive side, March is typically a very snowy month. More near term, we still have a substantial part of February to go. It's currently snowing, and the 7-day forecast is dominated by periods where there's at least chances of snow. There appears to be a ridge setting up off the Aleutians, which has historically served to funnel a series of storms our way. So stay tuned, and delaying committing as long as you can.
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