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Shintronic? has anybody heard of these?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

Saw this at http://bootfitter.com

Do they really do anything? They don't have much in the way of technical data on their site. It would seem to me that a well fit boot does the same thing. Maybe for people with skinny legs?

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post #2 of 22

That looks pretty interesting, giving you bigger calves and more grip...lost a lot of weight and i notice my calves are much smaller.  Just need to do something about that price.  There's also the chance of pressure points but as long as it doesn't move around it shouldn't bunch up your socks.

post #3 of 22

This looks like an answer in search of a question.

post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 

No it's a question, note the question mark. rolleyes.gif

post #5 of 22

Maybe when your liner has packed out, and you have skinny legs, these might help.  I have the skinny legs thing covered......

post #6 of 22
Could just do more calf extensions, which would also help your skiing.
post #7 of 22

i'm taking a chance and ordered these things.  My intuition liners that I have 2 days on are killing me at the shin - a funny overlap thing is happening at the boot top.  Finally cured the ankle fit with the Intuitions, now this.

 

I looked at the Eliminator pads on Tognar - the Shintronics look like a better tool.

post #8 of 22

Finally got a day in with these things.  Ordered them from Holland - arrived reasonably quick, and Paypal made the transaction relatively easy.

 

They are made with neoprene, and have a set of extra pads included that attach with velcro.  You can use the pads, but they are pretty bulky.  Caution - if you put the pads in, they are going to be mothers to get out - fresh velcro is tough to get off the interior fuzzy surface.  You'd really have to have super skinny legs to need the pads ( or super giant boots); it's virtually impossible for me to get the top two buckles done with the pads in.  The pads can be positioned to allow the shin bone to nestle between them, and the pads have a slight bevel on the sides.

 

Did a day at Pomerelle, Idaho.  Not really too technical, a flat Mom'n'Pop ski hill.  I used the Shintronics without pads, and the top buckle went from being one from the last stop to one from the first stop.  Pretty comfortable all day, even with a hike to an almost out of bounds area.  The shin bite was gone, and I am impressed (maybe an 8 on a scale of 10).  Simple device, fit well, not too expensive.  Can't say it made a big difference in my skiing; just didn't hurt the next day.  Which is what I wanted the Shintronics to do - enable me to ski multiple days in a row.

post #9 of 22

I just wanted to chime in and say that these things have solved my shin pain I've been fighting with for several years now and after seeing many doctors, physio, getting xrays, bone scans, MRIs, these things fixed everything!

 

My issue appears to have been due to the fact that I have very "pointy" shins and very little tissue on the front of my shin so all the pressure on the tongue of my boot is along a very small strip on my shin. The shintronics create a "V" slot in the front where your shin bone goes and therefore distributes pressure on the entire front of your shin rather than right on top of your shin bone.

 

I had almost ruled out the cause of my pain being from my shin hitting the front of my boot as my shin was not getting bruised or even red so I always thought it had to be something internal like too tight lower leg muscles, shin splints or something like that. Add to this that my boot fitter had already tried creating a "V" slot in my boot tongue which hadn't fixed the problem so I had ruled this out. Although I realize now that the "V" slot my boot fitter created was not nearly enough due to my shins being so pointy whereas the shintronics create a much deeper slot for your shin bone to rest in.

 

I just bought these as a last ditch effort since I had tried pretty much everything else and I would have paid 10x the price of these things had I known they would completely fix my problem.

post #10 of 22

I have exactly the same problem as you, Jave, and I've just ordered the Shintronic too. On paper it seems tailor made for our problem, and based on what you say it works too. I just hope it doesn't pack out too quickly. Is there any gimmick to placing the pads or you just put them on either side of your shin?

post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by Anisaz View Post

I have exactly the same problem as you, Jave, and I've just ordered the Shintronic too. On paper it seems tailor made for our problem, and based on what you say it works too. I just hope it doesn't pack out too quickly. Is there any gimmick to placing the pads or you just put them on either side of your shin?

It doesn't look like it would pack out very quick or at all. The pads area made from some pretty dense neoprene.
As for placing the pads inside the shintronics, there is a printed on shape on the inside where you're supposed to place them but they can be placed anywhere inside. Mine seemed to work fine in the suggested position but you can always adjust depending on the size/shape of your leg. Note that there is a left and right pad within each shintronic. Make sure you place them correctly that way since one edge of the pads are beveled to create a better slot for your shin bone to rest in.

Also use the included straps that prevent the shintronics from sliding up while skiing. I didnt use them at first and had to readjust them after each run.

Since they made my lower legs a lot larger, I had to move the top two buckles on my boot or I couldn't close them at all. Make sure you test this at home first smile.gif The larger leg volume does feel better when it comes to power transfer to the boot so that was a nice added benefit.
post #12 of 22

Thanks Jave, this sounds awesome! I'll test them when they arrive and post a review too.

post #13 of 22

The website Bootfitter.com does not work. 

 

 

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post #14 of 22

googling finds snhintronic.com, but errors out the same way.  May be out of busuness, or maybe their web stuff is messed up.  Google does find quite a bit of discussion in other venues, too.

 

edit -original site works for me now.  Must have been temporary snafu.


Edited by mdf - 2/6/13 at 9:11pm
post #15 of 22
The site worked for me. How far down on the calf do they go? Do those tabs on the side go all the way down to he ankle bone? Are they thicker in the front than the back or the same all around?


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post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by skinnydog View Post

The site worked for me. How far down on the calf do they go? Do those tabs on the side go all the way down to he ankle bone? Are they thicker in the front than the back or the same all around?


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Took a couple pics. You can wear it as far down as you want but the size of your calves and the size of the shintronic will limit how far up you can wear them.

 

You can also see how the sleeve itself is the same thickness all around but then you add the pads to make the slot for your shin bone to rest in. The pads just attach by velcro and can be moved around as needed. They come with one pad attached and the instructions say that for many people one pad is enough to distribute pressure away from your shin bone but I put the second one in as well.

 

Note how the slot for the shin is not exactly right in the middle (yellow line) since your shin bone is not right in the middle of your shin.

 

P.S. the drunk tiger color scheme is awesome

 

 

post #17 of 22

It is good to hear you finally got this sorted Jave

post #18 of 22

I love these things!  Just finished a 9 day trip to Snowmass, Aspen, Steamboat, and Snowy Range, skiing 7 days in a row with no shin pain.  Between the Intuition liners and the Shintronics, no boot issues at all.  I have been skiing 40 years, and that's a first.

post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by Jave View Post
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Took a couple pics. You can wear it as far down as you want but the size of your calves and the size of the shintronic will limit how far up you can wear them.

 

You can also see how the sleeve itself is the same thickness all around but then you add the pads to make the slot for your shin bone to rest in. The pads just attach by velcro and can be moved around as needed. They come with one pad attached and the instructions say that for many people one pad is enough to distribute pressure away from your shin bone but I put the second one in as well.

 

Note how the slot for the shin is not exactly right in the middle (yellow line) since your shin bone is not right in the middle of your shin....

Thanks very much for the pictures! So if I understand it correctly, you position the pads such that the gap between the two pads accommodates the shin bone, right? and you can make the gap wider or narrower by adjusting the positions of the two pads, right?

 

On the http://bootfitter.com/ web site there are S/M/L sizes. My boot is 25.5 cm. I suppose I should buy S size?

 

Update: just looked more on the site and there is measurement guide for sizing. Screen shot below:

 

 

Do you wear them as the site suggests that the top portion of the shintronic sticks out of the top of the boot? and buckles/straps only at the lower part of the shintronic? Some screen shots below:

 


Edited by askidummy - 2/22/13 at 7:23am
post #20 of 22

After about 10 days using these, they are still awesome and have solved my problem but I have had to make some adjustments because they created other issues such as new pressure points.

 

First of all, where I get pain is much lower on the shin than where they suggest you wear the shintronics so I initially started wearing them exactly where the above pictures say you're not supposed to wear them :)

 

This caused issues with pressure points on my ankle bones. To fix this, I did two things. First I moved the pads inside the shintronics way down inside the sleeves so they actually stick out a bit at the bottom. This allows me to wear the shintronics higher up, closer to where they are intended to be worn.

 

Secondly, I cut away a bit of the sleeve fabric around the ankle bones since they were still causing pressure points.

 

Bottom line is, I could probably create a more permanent modification to the boot tongue (attached the pads directly to the tongue or something) to solve this problem rather than use the shintronics but at least the shintronics helped me discover what the cause of my pain was.

post #21 of 22

I don't use the pads at all.  I wear them about half in, half out.  The lower drawing shows them about 1/3 out, 2/3 in the boot.

post #22 of 22

I tested them too last week-end. My problem was that my shin only touched the boot tongue in the upper portion, so the pressure was focused there. The shintronics alleviated this by spreading the pressure sideways and away from the ridge of my shin bone, but I still got most of the pressure under the 4th buckle. Still, they helped enough that I could ski and from now on my shins will probably harden as I continue to ski.

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