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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

I'm sure this topic has been brought up many times before but couldn't quite find what I'm looking for.

 

How often should I wax my skis?? I suppose this falls under the "Depends" answer but in general when do I know I'm due for a wax tune-up or even edge's sharpened for that matter??

 

Does condition(hard/soft) of the snow play a big factor. Skiing one run vs 20 runs matter??

 

Thought??

 

Thanks...

post #2 of 22
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Originally Posted by lott42 View Post

I'm sure this topic has been brought up many times before but couldn't quite find what I'm looking for.

 

How often should I wax my skis?? I suppose this falls under the "Depends" answer but in general when do I know I'm due for a wax tune-up or even edge's sharpened for that matter??

 

Does condition(hard/soft) of the snow play a big factor. Skiing one run vs 20 runs matter??

 

Thought??

 

Thanks...

the base will get chalky n dull when its old. you will notice less agility.

 

wax after every 2-5 full ski days

post #3 of 22

Depends on what you mean by "waxing." Wax that you rub on by hand wears off after a few runs in my experience and isn't worth it.   Hot waxing last longer, and how long in between waxing depends on the snow conditions, and the ski. Like SkiSafe mentioned, check to see if your bases look chalky.  

 

FWIW I think I notice the difference more in spring conditions when things gets slushy and long runouts really slow down. 

 

post #4 of 22
If you ski enough on waxed skis you'll probably notice when they need wax. If you don't notice then it really doesn't matter and you can save some time and effort.
post #5 of 22

ya some people go 10 days without waxing. some people never wax. Its not exactly like changing your motor oil, if you dont do it, it wont kill you.

 

But it can dramatically improve the overall "lifespan" of your ski, depending on the type of base you have. And obviously it really does make difference in overall agility.

post #6 of 22

I'll normally wax after each weekend trip.  For a week-long trip, I'll start using a paste wax after three or four days.  The paste wax needs to be done daily.  Because my skis are almost always waxed, I can feel the difference pretty easily when they need more.

post #7 of 22

There is no over-waxing. I usually hot waxed my skis every other day.

post #8 of 22

Q: When does a Marine need a haircut?

A: Never!

 

Q: When do my skis need waxing?

A: Never.

 

The point is to do it before it is needed.  Suppose it depends on your definition of "need" too.  If you ski on the weekends only, you should be able to wax them during the week and be good for the weekend.  This is something to be trigger happy with.

post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by lott42 View Post

 

Does condition(hard/soft) of the snow play a big factor. Skiing one run vs 20 runs matter??

 

 

Not just the snow... Also, a factor is the right wax for the temperature.  Example: a warm-rated (soft) wax on cold snow will not last nearly as long as a wax rated for that snow temp.

 

The number of runs/days also depends on how hard you ski.

 

Many factors... Try to optimize the wax then use your eyes to judge as mentioned above.  

post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by Xela View Post

I'll normally wax after each weekend trip.  For a week-long trip, I'll start using a paste wax after three or four days.  The paste wax needs to be done daily.  Because my skis are almost always waxed, I can feel the difference pretty easily when they need more.

 

i use the paste stuff sometimes but mostly on a trip after day 2 or 3 i break out the toolbox w/ iron etc and sometimes even the roto set up which kind of makes a mess but i have come to really like hot waxed skis and the consistency from doing it my self

post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the quick reply's everybody :o)

 

How about edges?? In normal general ski use(no rock gouging etc.) should edges be sharpened once a ski season(for me a ski season is about 15 days a year)??

 

Thanks

post #12 of 22

Many people will say get a base grind and tune every season.  That takes care of the base edges. You can touch up the side edges more frequently, depending on how much sharpness you want.  Since I already own the diamond files and guides, I touch up the side edges before every wax, as it's quick and easy.  Slippery slope...

post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by lott42 View Post

Thanks for the quick reply's everybody :o)

 

How about edges?? In normal general ski use(no rock gouging etc.) should edges be sharpened once a ski season(for me a ski season is about 15 days a year)??

 

Thanks

 

I don't know that my definitions are correct but this is how it works in my head.  YMMV.  I view edge maintenance is three categories:

 

Set - This is done at the time of a base grind and is the foundation work.  It is when you set your edges to 1/3, 1/2 or whatever you preference/needs are.  Side edges can be set without a base grind in instances where the base was set properly but the shop gave you a 1/2 instead of the 1/3 you asked for.  I typically have this done once a year on my everyday skis.  Might skip a year on skis that haven't seen much use.  Done by machine.

 

Sharpened - Is pretty much the same as set, but again assumes the base and base edge are fine.  I usually end up doing this on skis that have been neglected for whatever reason or after damage has happened.  Done using a file, followed up by polishing.  See next definition.

 

Polished - This is done every time you wax (or at least almost every time). I use the diamond stones in varying grits to get rid of any blemishes they have happened while skiing.  If I notice a bad spot from damage, I'll re-sharpen.  Done by diamond stones and a file if needed.

 

I ski about 50-60 days a year for a point of reference.

 

 

Many, many moons ago, I was in charge of a golf course on a Marine base (hated it - I don't golf).  What I learned was there are several different machines for different lengths of grass for different areas; fairway, green, rough, crown, etc.  All a different length and schedule (I think greens were daily, crown was every other day etc).  All machines cut one length only - no adjustables. 

 

I think of my edges as the Greens.  I want them to behave exactly the same way each day in the same way golfers want the green to have the same characteristics each day (without all the whining though).  The only way for that to happen is to make sure they are in the same condition each day. 


Edited by L&AirC - 10/9/12 at 9:31am
post #14 of 22

should edges be sharpened once a ski season?

 

BwahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA choke snort gasp.... :))))

 

Depending on snow -  every 2-3 ski days.

post #15 of 22

wax frequently and well so you are fast on the flats and don't hold people up cause your skis won't run. imperative.

post #16 of 22

I hot wax after one day ski max two.

post #17 of 22

If you are waxing every day or every other day how much time do you spend scraping and then brushing when you are going out for a day of recreational ripping.

 

I understand if someone is racing then you want a thin wax surface.  But I have been told that if you are just riding for fun a quick scrape and brush is enough since the excess will scrape itself off from friction on the snow.  Is that just being lazy or is scraping and brushing less important for a recreational skier who just likes equipment that works correctly.

post #18 of 22

I wax every 60,000 vertical feet (I track that number anyway) as then I am not worrying about number of days and did I ski a long day or a short day on them.  I note which skis I use every day when I log my footage and make a mental note which pair is coming up on "wax time" before I go.  Since I store the skis in a locker and only take them home for waxing, naturally I polish the edges at the same time. On the other hand, I don't live on the east coast anymore.  In that case, I might do it every day!!

post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by Patsfan View Post

If you are waxing every day or every other day how much time do you spend scraping and then brushing when you are going out for a day of recreational ripping.

 

I understand if someone is racing then you want a thin wax surface.  But I have been told that if you are just riding for fun a quick scrape and brush is enough since the excess will scrape itself off from friction on the snow.  Is that just being lazy or is scraping and brushing less important for a recreational skier who just likes equipment that works correctly.

On one end is obsessive compulsive, on the other end is lazy.  

There's a happy middle.

 

If you went to the trouble of waxing, yes you should give the effort to clear the excess wax.  You don't need to spend 30min on scraping/brushing, but you should spend more than 30seconds to clear your edges, scrape and quick brush out of the structure.  I've done this in the parking lot before with a old credit card for edges and a stiff bath brush (nylon).  If you didn't overwax during waxing, you won't have too much excess to remove. 

 

Otherwise, yes your skis will still work, but perhaps non-optimally for 5-10 runs.  And that might be 20% of your runs for this particular wax job, so you're somewhat wasting your equipment on the slopes during those runs.  (Like buying a sportscar then putting on bald tires)

post #20 of 22

I have a habit of waxing and touching up my edges after every day of skiing.  Multi-day trips i'll probably just wax with a cold CH6 and possibly get a wax done at a shop if they seem slow, however i ALWAYS carry my edge tuning equipment. 

post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by Patsfan View Post

If you are waxing every day or every other day how much time do you spend scraping and then brushing when you are going out for a day of recreational ripping.

 

I understand if someone is racing then you want a thin wax surface.  But I have been told that if you are just riding for fun a quick scrape and brush is enough since the excess will scrape itself off from friction on the snow.  Is that just being lazy or is scraping and brushing less important for a recreational skier who just likes equipment that works correctly.

I don't spend a lot of time scraping because i use the ironwaxer to take away excess wax from the base of the ski. Skiman taught me a trick.

When the wax on the ski base is cold I put between ironwaxer and ski base a blotting paper (like paper that you have in the kitchen) and i move slowly the ironwaxer and the paper from the tip to the tail of the ski. Wax remains on the paper. Maybe you have to change paper over this work.

After if you want you can scrape but it will be very fast, or you can go to ski without problems. smile.gif It had better brush i usually do it in few minutes.

 

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post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by lott42 View Post

I'm sure this topic has been brought up many times before but couldn't quite find what I'm looking for.

 

How often should I wax my skis?? I suppose this falls under the "Depends" answer but in general when do I know I'm due for a wax tune-up or even edge's sharpened for that matter??

 

Does condition(hard/soft) of the snow play a big factor. Skiing one run vs 20 runs matter??

 

Thought??

 

Thanks...

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