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About those Tecnica Jr. race boots on my feet...

post #1 of 21
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I was reading the post from a woman having issues with her Tecnica junior boots and wanted to add a comment and ask a question.

 

I have the older Tecnica Diablo version of this Junior race boot in a 21.  (my street shoe is a 5.5 or 6)  Best fitting boot I have found and have not tried others.  The BSL is truly an adult length fitting well into most bindings, and with some skilled adjustment CAN be adapted to some of those system bindings if you want to be out on the hill demoing for a day on skis set up with those bindings.

 

Having said this, it would be great to know that I will not be forever stuck with the Orange flames should manufacturers find sufficient value in creating options for smaller ladies feet.  Looks like progress is being made(?)

 

My question:  After 4 years of skiing in these boots--- 2 separate pairs---I cannot get them buckled tight enough to feel snug as I'd like.  My sense is that the liners are ready to go, but I should probably hang onto the shells due to few options for replacement.

Would a ZipFit work in this particular boot?  My feet have been getting cold with the tight buckles, not to mention numb over the navicular through July post season.

 I am 92 pounds and 5'2", advanced intermediate.   Not a powder hound or freeskier.  Speed is my enjoyment when the runs are pretty clear, otherwise I tend to practice bumps or work through chop hoping to progress in that department.

 

Any suggestions for the boot problem?

post #2 of 21

zip fit does not build a 21mondopoint liner. you will be hard pressed to get a bigger zip fit liner into that shell.

 

neoprene tongue shims are a very good fix for taking up volume while driving the foot down and back into the shell. have some installed in your existing boots if you want to shore up the fit.

 

there are 2 other 21 mondopoint boots that are being produced this year from dalbello and lange.

since i have not received these yet, i cannot give you information on how they compare to the fit shape of the tecnica. but at least now you will have some options of boots in a 21 mondopoint to try. in the end purchase the one that feels tightest in the shop, you obviously have a small and low volume foot.

 

jim

post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 

Jim,  thanks for that information.  I've never thought about the neoprene tongue option;  might well be worth investigating.

 

 I did read your post regarding the new Dalbello Chakra and would like to try a pair on for size.  No one seems to have the 21 (or 21.5) available at this time.

Hmmmm.............switching from primary orange to girly blue and white.....                

post #4 of 21

a thicker intuition liner, or foam liner might help too.

post #5 of 21

there is no such thing as a 21 intuition or injection foam liners.

 

there are 22's, but in that low volume tecnica 21, neither will fit very well without wrinkling during the molding or injecting process.

 

jim

post #6 of 21
Not sure about the dabello but the lane is a 22 shell with reinforcement ribs in the toe to shorten it internally without adding to much weight, the liner is stamped 21/21.5 and is shorter than the 22 one that they offer, from what I know we are the only place in the uk to buy into this size, hopefully a few more places your side if the pond will have taken it because if Lange don't get the numbers it will not be produced

Fit wise it has the volume and width of the 22 so not as tight fitting as the tecnica

I woke with another manufactures recently about why they only offered down to a 23 in some ladies boots...all down to cost, they have budget for one extra mould at one end of the run so they have to choose between a size 30 or 31(depending on the normal top size inn the model) and a size 22, the fitters all want the 22 available but the big box stores want the big boot...they sell almost equal numbers at either ends have to choose one or the other...unfortunately they big box stores often win as they sel more boots, fitted or not
post #7 of 21
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CEM,   Yes you are probably correct regarding the manufacture and marketing of the smaller boot sizes.  There are many ladies who fall into the rut where I have found myself to be!    I will for now try the tongue addition as Jim has suggested.  

 

That new Dalbello Chakra in the 21  must be out there somewhere but I have yet to learn of any retailer who has it available.  A few years ago I had brand new Lange 80's in a 21 to consider, as well as the Tecnica Race Pro 90,  and the Lange was a great fit ---needed a little punch on the lateral toe side (lots of burning pain after 15 minutes)---which I did not have done---and returned them to the store due to the advice of bootfitters that stated the Lange could not really be "worked on" to any improved degree for stance issues.  So I have stuck with the Tecnica junior boot which is very low volume.  Can't even get a foot warmer in there.  A great boot overall, just needs some attention this season.  

post #8 of 21

I hope Jim is right on the Chakra, but my Dalbello manual shows the boot only available down to a 22.

 

Lou

post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post

I hope Jim is right on the Chakra, but my Dalbello manual shows the boot only available down to a 22.

 

Lou


Our order conf shows the 6 pr we ordered so I think they intend to make it. Heck, they may even ship it. Promised last week but to date, no KR2's at all. However........new mold, very fringe size, we'll see if they show and what they are when they get here. 

 

The sz 21 Lange is no kind of answer for a LV foot.

 

SJ

post #10 of 21
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Jim,  do you think those Chakras will be in your store in November?

post #11 of 21
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Jim,  do you think those Chakras will be in your store in November?


Sometime in November sure, when?.........welllllll.......I thought they would be here in September........that's what I get for thinkin'

 

SJ

post #12 of 21

Jim, i guess they will be on the water, ours only showed up about 10 days ago this side of the pond

post #13 of 21

Jim:

If you get the smaller size please let us know how they are.  My order just arrived and half of it is back ordered.

 

Lou

post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 

 While hunting online I noticed that Sturtevandts is selling the 21s.   Maybe they have an "uncle" in the biz.

post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post

I hope Jim is right on the Chakra, but my Dalbello manual shows the boot only available down to a 22.

 

Lou

 

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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post

Jim:

If you get the smaller size please let us know how they are.  My order just arrived and half of it is back ordered.

 

Lou

 

 

While the box says 257, the shell says 262. In talking to the rep, they dropped just the 5mm because of the limitations of some system bindings, i.e. Volkl. 


Edited by Philpug - 10/22/12 at 4:17pm
post #16 of 21

Interesting, our rep was in yesterday and we looked through everything together and couldn't find any listing for a 21.  The catalogue I received in Denver also shows sizes starting with 22.  So many mysteries.

 

Lou

post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post

Interesting, our rep was in yesterday and we looked through everything together and couldn't find any listing for a 21.  The catalogue I received in Denver also shows sizes starting with 22.  So many mysteries.

 

Lou

 

Ummmm...............didja get yer catalog from a Canadian rep??? Just wondering............biggrin.gif

 

Seriously, we've had ours for several days now and Phil sold one t'other day to a customer that had been patiently waiting. While probably not exactly what we've all been wanting it to be, it is very possibly the new standard in this arena at least for now.

 

SJ

post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post

 

Ummmm...............didja get yer catalog from a Canadian rep??? Just wondering............biggrin.gif

 

Seriously, we've had ours for several days now and Phil sold one t'other day to a customer that had been patiently waiting. While probably not exactly what we've all been wanting it to be, it is very possibly the new standard in this arena at least for now.

 

SJ

SJ,   What do you mean when you say "wanting it to be"?  Do you refer to the boot itself , or the Under-22-foot market in general?

post #19 of 21

Both.

 

SJ
 

post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 

Jim,   Now that you have had these Chakras in the store for awhile, what is your take on them?  Are they disappointing due to the Cabrio design?   Switching from a true race boot to this Dalbello, what do you forsee in terms of benefits vs problems?   I realize this might be awkward to answer since you are not in the process of fitting my boot, but I would like to know your impressions.

post #21 of 21

The cabrio design is generally not a negative for most skiers. It just has a different feel in terms of energy transmission. The differences for a non racer or (perhaps) a non technical skier will probably be unnoticeable to non-existant. The rest of it is fit oriented and like all boots, the Dalbello will either deliver your needs and expectations for fit or it won't.

 

SJ 

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