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Alpine Carving or Slalom as a second pair? (Fischer WC SC vs iSupershape Magnum)

Poll Results: What gives the best sensations? (nervosity/polyvalence small and larger turns)

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post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hi everyone, I am new to epicski, and I ski in Europe, but it seems that you've got a more active community here!


Hi recently bought a pair of freestyle BC quite wide and i am know looking for what I should buy for groomed snow.


I am an expert skier (40+ days/year) and I am leaning towards Slalom skis. I particularly like the Fischer WC SC but since I am not doing slalom in competition, I thought I'd go for long ones, because I want to be able to make wider turns if I want to


So my question is should I go for the WC SC in 170 cm or should i look for more polyvalence in carving skis, like the isupershape magnum 177?


I weigh 187 for 6 feet 2 inches, and I am 24y old


If you have suggestions or comments, feel free to step in!

post #2 of 9

I luv SL skis for hard groomed & machine made snow but if you want to ski faster than SL speeds or on softer snow, go with the carvers.


post #3 of 9

Oh, & welcome to Epicski smile.gif !

post #4 of 9

As someone who has dropped true race skis from my quiver in favor of strong carvers (175 Fischer Progressors and, to a lesser extent, 194 Stockli Stormrider XLs), I would not hesitate to go the same route.  True race skis are a specialized breed for a specialized application -- a specialized application that, unless I misunderstand your question, you're not doing.  


If your goal is to improve your short radius turns, by all means, go slalom.  (That's why my wife has a pair)


But if you're looking to vary your turn shape and speeds, use a tool that is intended to do so.

post #5 of 9

       I have both the SL and the Progressor and if you aren't racing the Progressor is in my opinion the way to go. It turns quick enough and is also stable at high speeds.

post #6 of 9

Among my too-many-skis, I have a pair of real slalom skis (from Blizzard) and a pair of hard-snow carving skis (Blizzard G-Force something-or-the-others).


The slalom skis are really fun to ski on rock-hard icy groomers.  They are in no way forgiving, relaxing, or capable in anything not groomed.  they can churn out an endless number of slalom turns.  That's it.  As TheDad said, race skis are one-trick ponies that are magical at their one trick.  I keep my slalom skis for racing in beer leagues as, in a race course, they are sweet.


My other carvers (the Blizzard G-Force something-or-others) have almost all the edge hold of the slalom skis.  They're forgiving enough to ski bumps and handle spring glop.  Their turn radius is easily modified.  They are, in a word, "fun".  You can ski them all day and not feel like you've just been given a workout by some sadistic fitness instructor.

post #7 of 9

I own a pair of WC SC in 170.  Although it's a really fun ride I found it a bit too much to ski everyday. You just have to be too "on" all the time.  Since you're in Europe you have access to the Head Supershape (non-Magnum).  See if you can get a demo of a pair in 170.  A little less demanding than the SC but a lot more versatile. Still a very capable carver. 

post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thank you for your quick answers, but just to be clear,


Fischer WC SC Pro are not race skis, despite the WorldCup mention, they are a bit more accessible than the WC SL which are FIS-homologated.

See the difference here:





I thought maybe there was a confusion in some answers, 


  I have both the SL and the Progressor


SC stands for Slalom/Carving. anyone changing his/her mind or seeing other options?

Thanks again

post #9 of 9

I bought a pair of WC SC's in 165 (5'6", 170) for tight NASTAR and controlling my speed when skiing with my wife.

When compared back to back with Blizzard SL's the SC's are relatively soft.

I'm amazed at how many ways I can ski the SC's.

Of course, they carve lightspeed slalom turns on hard  snow almost a well as the "true" slalom's...unless you are on an iced course both will hold very well.

The softer SC's don't require as aggressive a stance and as much energy to ski casually.

What really surprises me is when you start carving GS turns...they do it well and are amazingly stable at 40mph even with the 13m radius and 165 length.

A very interesting ski.

When I want to ski with the boys I turn to my Volkl Racetigers (174 with a very strong tip) or my Atomic race stock LT's (176 and the softest ski I have ever ridden).

The Volkl's make automatic turns with 17m radius and the LT's are real GS skis at 21 m.

I love the Atomics but they are the real deal and the effort that will start a turn on the Volkl's won't cause the Atomics to do anything.

The ultra soft tip requires a lot of pressure on the ski just in front of your boot to initiate...you have to be locked and loaded in a GS stance.

So, what's the point of all this raving?

I love the SC's and they are perfect on firm snow when things are crowded and evasive action is necessary (people slalom).

Detuned GS Skis for the masses may be less tiring to ski but they really don't generate anything like the feeling of precision of a real beer league type ski.

That's boring but you can do it allday.

You choose.

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