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Ski Advice - Line Prophet 90, Nordica Steadfast or other

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Hey folks,

 

First post here... I'm slightly new to the skiing world as I was raised back in Brazil but the past two years I lived abroad and went skiing in every opportunity. I dedicated myself a lot on the slopes and out of it reading forums, books and watching videos and I would say that I'm finishing to move from intermediate to advanced level according to criteriums I've seen so far.

 

I'll move to California in end of January and will be skiing mostly in Lake tahoe resorts. I think it's time to buy my own gear set. I'll start going to a good boot fitter but will need to make a decision on the skis.

 

What has been more fascinating in my last tries was to explore off-piste areas, a nice powder and will also try some AT skiing this season, but I still want to be able to master other areas as to perform good long carving turns and also nail moguls.

 

That said, my goal is to get an all-mountain ski giving preference towards freeride runs. Some might say that all mountain skis are skis that perform equally bad everywhere, but do I have an alternative here? Should I just keep renting equipement for one more season?

 

I've nailed down to the Line Prophet and the Nordica Steadfast, both 90 on the waist. My height is 177cm (5'10'') and my weight is 182lbs, I'm thinking about 178-9cm models to get quick turns easier and trying to keep the waist at 90 to don't compromise the carving too much.

 

Also, if you want to sell a good used gear set matching what I need I would be interested.

 

I'll be glad to hear your advices :). Thank you in advance.

post #2 of 20

I`ve had a chance to demo the Line P90 last year and it`s a nice ski, it was a 4 to 5" of fresh and it was holding nice! I also liked it on grommed! The P90 is a nice ski! I can`t speak for the Steadfast. I`m 5'5" / 150 lbs and I demoed the 165 P90.

 

You are moving to California, don`t forget to visit Starthaus. They will help you with boots and skis if you need it!

 

Last year P90 should be easy to find for a good price, starthaus also has a deal going on for Nordica skis, those are 2nds but if you don`t mind having small cosmetic defects they are a steal! The steadfast is currently 299 and they have both 178 and 186.

 

You said you are moving by the end of January, when do you think you are gonna be buying the skis? Are you already in the US?

post #3 of 20

Ditto on Starthaus....great bootfitters.

post #4 of 20

I demoed  both the Line P90 and Nordica Steadfast last season.  I bought the Nordicas for one reason.  Some of the most fun runs where I ski are steep chutes lined with trees and when I demoed skis I always skied the same one.  The Nordicas were definitely better at making the quick linked turns needed to down the chute.  The P90s mostly seemed slow to respond, possibly because they're heavier than the Steadfasts.  I'm 5'8", 150 pounds and bought the 170s.  The 178s should be just right for you.  The Steadfasts have good edge grip for the groomers, perform pretty well in the bumps and I've had them in at least 18" of fresh snow and they were easy to handle.  They're pretty forgiving and don't demand the concentration that a race ski does.

post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by Davi Costa View Post

Hey folks,

 

First post here... I'm slightly new to the skiing world as I was raised back in Brazil but the past two years I lived abroad and went skiing in every opportunity. I dedicated myself a lot on the slopes and out of it reading forums, books and watching videos and I would say that I'm finishing to move from intermediate to advanced level according to criteriums I've seen so far.

 

I'll move to California in end of January and will be skiing mostly in Lake tahoe resorts. I think it's time to buy my own gear set. I'll start going to a good boot fitter but will need to make a decision on the skis.

 

What has been more fascinating in my last tries was to explore off-piste areas, a nice powder and will also try some AT skiing this season, but I still want to be able to master other areas as to perform good long carving turns and also nail moguls.

 

That said, my goal is to get an all-mountain ski giving preference towards freeride runs. Some might say that all mountain skis are skis that perform equally bad everywhere, but do I have an alternative here? Should I just keep renting equipement for one more season?

 

I've nailed down to the Line Prophet and the Nordica Steadfast, both 90 on the waist. My height is 177cm (5'10'') and my weight is 182lbs, I'm thinking about 178-9cm models to get quick turns easier and trying to keep the waist at 90 to don't compromise the carving too much.

 

Also, if you want to sell a good used gear set matching what I need I would be interested.

 

I'll be glad to hear your advices :). Thank you in advance.

I skied the P90 in a 172 and am 5'9" 175#  and wished i skied the size up.  It felt very light and easy to maneuver.  I skied on groomers and bumps with this ski and had a blast.  just my .02

post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 

@mfa81 and @banzaibikes: Thanks for hint for the Starthaus, my initial idea was to go to a Bay Area store, but I'll call them in January. About the used skis, I do not mind getting them in the case that they are in a good state, I only fear that with my lack of experience I won't be able to do the right judgment.

 

@mtcyclist: Nice to see someone with experience who have demoed both, your reply helped a lot and I might have done my mind.

 

@thekidd326: Thanks, your reply and mtcyclist one about the size points out that my initial shot in choosing the 179cm should be the right one.

post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by Davi Costa View Post

@mfa81 and @banzaibikes: Thanks for hint for the 
Starthaus, my initial idea was to go to a Bay Area store, but I'll call them in January. About the used skis, I do not mind getting them in the case that they are in a good state, I only fear that with my lack of experience I won't be able to do the right judgment.

if you are gonna be close to Tahoe talk to starthaus, the nordicas are brand new skis not used and in perfect conditions, what I meant by 2nds is that those products have small cosmetic defects hence cannot be sold full price, but apart from that you will be getting a brand new product! Think about a small paint job. Take a look at their website, there is a youtube video where Sierrajim talks about the skis and explain the whole thing!
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 

I saw it yesterday, I sent them an e-mail, proposing to pay now and asking them to hold it until I get there, I'll be waiting for an answer.

post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 

I called there, unfortunately they can't hold it =/, I believe I'll have to hope no one buys it before.

post #10 of 20

You called Starthaus and they wouldn't take your money and just set the skis aside until you get there?

post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 

Yep, unfortunately... "We cannot hold anything for that long" and suggested that I asked a friend to receive it for me.

 

The call wasn't very clear (skype) but I believe I explained it well that I would pay for it now, I sent them an e-mail before anyway, so if they change their minds they can contact me back.

post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Davi Costa View Post

Yep, unfortunately... "We cannot hold anything for that long" and suggested that I asked a friend to receive it for me.

 

The call wasn't very clear (skype) but I believe I explained it well that I would pay for it now, I sent them an e-mail before anyway, so if they change their minds they can contact me back.

Try contacting SierraJim and Philpug, they work on the shop, maybe they can figure something else for you.

post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 

Update :),

 

Greyson Howard e-mailed me back and solved everything, just bought them!

post #14 of 20

so what did you end up getting? now you just need to show up there and get bindings and your boots! :-)

post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 

"Just" the skis and I'm not going personally to the shop, the binding that I want is available and cheaper elsewhere, (Marker Griffon, maybe schizo), and for the boot fitting I need it to be in the Bay area, I'll be mostly doing one-two day trip with ski bus to Tahoe, so I won't have time to do adjustments on the shop, I'm following the hints about "keep your bootfitter close to your home" :).

 

Anyway, it was an excellent deal on the Skis.

post #16 of 20

What skis did you buy?

post #17 of 20
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post #18 of 20

Good choice for a ski IMO.  Who said you should deal with a boot fitter close to where you live?  That has an advantage if there is also a decent ski area close, but take a look at the list of boot fitters that are active on here because there are at least a couple in the Sierras, including one or two at Starthaus.  You can also check the list of fitters for someone in the bay area.  Just because someone says they are a boot fitter doesn't mean they really are.

post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Good choice for a ski IMO.  Who said you should deal with a boot fitter close to where you live?  That has an advantage if there is also a decent ski area close, but take a look at the list of boot fitters that are active on here because there are at least a couple in the Sierras, including one or two at Starthaus.  You can also check the list of fitters for someone in the bay area.  Just because someone says they are a boot fitter doesn't mean they really are.

Agreed! That would be true if you have the option for two good boot fitters one close to where you live and another that would require you to drive 2hrs. That's an easy choice, but sometimes it's hard to find good service too far from ski areas.

 

I believe this topic needs some research, you might wanna check it out on Ask the Boot Guys forum and see if you can get good recommendation on where to go.

 

Also check http://www.bootfitters.com and http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitters-on-epicski

post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 

So, after the great advices, I got those skis and I haven't had the opportunity to try them out yet and during this time some doubts have surfaced.

 

I kept watching tons of freestyle videos and got really interested in trying out some nice jumps and easy tricks like 360's, I know this is not a twin tip but I wonder if this small rise on the tail would be enough for skiing switch or mainly landing switch with reasonable performance. Thoughts? Also, are the chances of breaking the skis too high if I hit some kickers with it?

 

It's not my priority and I know I should avoid rails with them, but what about boxes, would them damage the skis just as much?

 

I might consider getting some cheap park skis next season if I like it, I'm in a phase that every skiing category sounds awesome and I didn't have enough time to try them all.

 

Thanks again!

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