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Woo-Hoo! Broke 80 for the first time today!

post #1 of 20
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Been playing for about 4 years now. I have been looking forward to the day. Today was it! I was playing with a long time golfer and buddy who swore I would never ever beat him, it was a matter of principle, nothing personal. Not only did I break 80, I shot a 78, I beat him by 3 strokes. Life is good.
post #2 of 20
Phil,

Awesome! Only playing for 4 years and breaking 80! How did you develop your game? Lots of lessons and time working on the short game?
post #3 of 20
I broke 80 for the first time last year.

I swear, one of these day's I'm gonna go back and try the second hole...

[ July 02, 2002, 05:23 AM: Message edited by: Yogi ]
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Keoki:
Phil,

Awesome! Only playing for 4 years and breaking 80! How did you develop your game? Lots of lessons and time working on the short game?
I broke 80, not till I do it more than once will I be breaking 80 . How did I develop my game? Watching golf on TV, Tiger and the Golf Channel. Also I have been taking leasons since last year, 2-3 leasons a summer, to keep me from straying. I also try to stay w/in myself. I don't overpower my swing, I will hit a easy 8 vs. a hard 9 and such. I like courses around 6000 yds, getting over that, its too much for me and I am going into the greens with fairway woods. I played 2 weeks ago at Merion and shot over 100, that was a tough course. I just enjoy playing. I am looking to be as good of a golfer as I am a skier. I would rate myself as a strong single handicap skier.
In my bag:
Driver: Wilson Deep Red 305cc 9 deg.
5 Wood: Wilson Deep Red
Irons: Callaway Big Bertha RCH 90 5-S
Putter: Ping

I do not keep a 3 or 4 iron in the bag. I hit my 6 Iron 165-170 any thing further than that I hit the 5 wood. I keep the 5 iron for punching out. I don't carry a 3 wood either, I hit my 5 175-200 and can control it, I had trouble controling my last 3 wood. Ideally, I would love to carry a 4 wood, but Wilson doesn't make one in this series. I am thinking about switching to steel shaft irons from the graphite, I am not sure there.
post #5 of 20
Hey Congrats!!!!
post #6 of 20
Broke 80? How did you do on the back nine?
post #7 of 20
WAY TO GO, PHIL!

That's a milestone for sure. I remember when I broke 80 for the first time, it was my 3d year playing. It happened at Manor Country Club in Rockville MD, while playing a "familiarization" round for an upcoming high school team match. I shot 78 and couldn't believe it. No mulligans, no sharp pencil, no hand wedge. :

Of course, two days later I shot 87 in the match. When I was a teenager, I wasn't very good under pressure!

Keep up the good work!
post #8 of 20
Way to go Phil!

I've been playing THAT STUPID GAME for 27 some odd years and the best I've scored is an 81 at the TPC at Myrtle Beach; took a darn triple bogey seven on the last freaking hole!!!!! (what could have been.....)

You are a natural if you scored a 78 after four years. I'm taking time off this season so I can forget all of my bad habits, like swinging too quickly and too hard.

Hit 'em straight.
post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by GeoffD:
Broke 80? How did you do on the back nine?
with that said, I also broke 80 on the back 9 too! . Front 38/Back 40.

Thanks for all of the well words! I was a big milestone for me and I am savoring the time, until I play Friday and shoot my usual 90 or so.
post #10 of 20
Very good Phil!!! I recently got a, ah, 140, before the handicap (which is the max, whatever that is). Got to fine tune my drive, heh. Golf would be more fun (and a lot less humiliating) if there were green runs for beginners.
post #11 of 20
...That's what par 3 courses and pitch 'n' putt is for.

S
post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 
[quote]Originally posted by Phil Pugliese:
Quote:
Thanks for all of the well words! I was a big milestone for me and I am savoring the time, until I play Friday and shoot my usual 90 or so.
Well I played yesterday in a 2 man best ball, my partner never got the ball in the air! We used my ball on every shot but one that I skulled. He helped on a couple of putss and we ended up with a 85. My guess is If I was shooting my ball I would have had closer to 90. I am still happy there.
I am still not turning my hands over with my driver though, I am not scicing but it has a little too much of a fade for my tastes, back to the range.
post #13 of 20
Phil,

make your grip "stronger" (rotate it clockwise) and pay attention to the release at the bottom of your swing.

I would bet that if you aren't square at contact with your driver, you are with other clubs, too. The shallow loft of a driver just amplifies the sidespin caused by a late release.
post #14 of 20
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Gonz, thats what I have been working on, a stronger grip. I even put the ball a little farther forward in my stance to help. Its funny, I am fine on the range but when I get back on the course...damn! : . Just gotta keep trying. The slower I swing, the faster I can get my hands through. I know it all here, but when I get out there, brainfart, LOL. But if I could do it all the time, they would be paying me to play and I don't see that hapening too soon.
post #15 of 20
Quote:
Originally posted by Phil Pugliese:
Gonz, thats what I have been working on, a stronger grip. I even put the ball a little farther forward in my stance to help. Its funny, I am fine on the range but when I get back on the course...damn! :
Phil,

Congrats on breaking 80!!!

A few thoughts that may help:

Most amateurs have a great deal of difficulty with two facets of the setup. Most of what goes wrong in a golf swing occurs before you ever swing the club.

First, really be cognizant of your alignment-feet, hips and shoulders. It's amazing to see how many people align their feet and hips properly but their shoulders face way left of the target. Your club will follow the path of your shoulders, if they're open (facing left of target for righties) it promotes an outside in swing. Have somebody watch you from behind and utilize a club on the ground as an alignment aid.

Second, watch your ball position. It's easy to get the ball too far forward in your stance (Lord, do I know that one). If it's too far forward you'll tend to hit the ball on the upswing rather that with a descending blow (excepting teed up metal wood shots). Draw a "T" on the ground when you practice and make sure for mid and high irons the ball is at the intersection of the top and leg of the "T". Then move it forward with the lower irons and woods but never past your left heel (assuming your right handed).

When you practice it's easy to get grooved repeating the same shot over and over. Make sure you have a specific thought and TARGET for each and every shot. Then play a mental round of golf. Pick a course your familiar with and tee of on the first hole,next hit the approach shot that results from your drive. etc, etc.

When your playing be aware of the alignment of the tee box. Many will aim somewhere besides down the middle of the fairway.

I like your hit it easy strategy. Good golfers play the game like chess. It's a game of placement. Put the ball in the fairway, put the ball on the green, get the first putt close then tap in the second putt. Leave the heroic shots to the tour pro's.

Spend 70% of your time practicing the short game, it's when you win or loose.

Most of all remember "it's a silly game"-David Duval, British Open Champion.
post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
I do believe is has to do with my alignment, when I am on the mat at the range, I can square mybody with the square of the mat. In the Tee-box its not as easy due to no points of refferance. Also sometimes you line up "off" in the box.
post #17 of 20
Yeah, hey Phil..wasn't that you that I saw...filling in the score card...jumping up & down...along Rte.1 there...just outside of Ogunquit (ME) (Miniature Golf Course...the waterfall & all)..? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #18 of 20
Phil,

Alignment on the course is a major bugaboo.

A major aid is to have a consistent, repeating pre-shot routine. To assist in alignment, from putting to hitting the big stick, first, I always pick out my line from behind the ball, then find a small object such as a discolored patch of grass just in front of the ball. Now I can reduce my imaginary line to that short distance, square my club to that line, then square my body to the club.

Additionally, a repeating pre shot routine has a "comforting" effect on your body. It's going through a process over and over.
post #19 of 20
Phil,

Gonzo makes a good point. Your handicap is likely in the 16 to 18 range I'd guess. I think 9 degree driver is too shallow for anyone over maybe a 10. Too hard to get in the air and swing flaws are amplified by the shallow face angle.

Have you tried a good quality 10 or 10 1/2 degree driver recently?

SJ
post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by skier_j:
Phil,

Gonzo makes a good point. Your handicap is likely in the 16 to 18 range I'd guess. I think 9 degree driver is too shallow for anyone over maybe a 10. Too hard to get in the air and swing flaws are amplified by the shallow face angle.

Have you tried a good quality 10 or 10 1/2 degree driver recently?

SJ
Maybe a 10.5 might be better, but I have the 9 and I need to hit that. In retrospect I should have gotten the 10.5, but I was hitting the 9 fine when I was trying them out. I just need to relax and work in it.
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