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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hi, 

 

I am not sure if I need new skis yet, may be just looking for the directions ;) Below are my answers,btw. Looking for the input/advise.Thanks.

 

Where in the world are you skiing?

East cost 80% of the time: PA(Blue Mt,Camelback etc), Whiteface, Killington. Plus usually 1 week/year in Colorado(A-Basin, Loveland)

What kinds of terrain do you prefer (groomed runs, moguls, race course, park'n'pipe, trees, steeps, backcountry/sidecountry)?

Mostly groomed runs, occasional tree skiing 

How many days a year do you ski?  

15-20

How advanced are you as a skier?

I think Intermediate/Advanced. In PA I prefer black or blue speedy trails(like Razors Edge on Blue), on Whiteface I feel more comfortable on blues. I have bad knees, so have to be careful around bumps.  

 

What's your height and weight?

170cm, 65kg(145?lb)

 

How did/will you buy your boots?

I have older(about 7yo) Lange 7.5 boots I like. I will need new footbeds this year but in general they are in good condition.

 

So far I have 2 skis: 

1. Dynastar Speed Drive, probably around 7yo; 168cm. They served me good but once in Colorado we run into big powder days. I realized that  my knees just scream pain when I tried to turn knee-deep in the snow. Most likely, just my lack on powder skills, I know.

So I got:

2. Rossignol Attraxtion 5, 154cm. Very soft,light, easy to turn. Did not tried to use them in powder, but they are reasonably good in the slush and beaten trails. Good in trees.  I liked them first, and used almost exclusively during last couple years,  but have a feeling that I do not learn from them anymore. They flatter when running fast.

 

My perfect skis would be something with very good ice grip, reasonably stiffness and easy turning(knees, again)

 

So I am not sure, should I go back to Dynastar's for typical EastCost icy days and use Rossy for trees/spring/slush.

Or is it better to get something new and retire what i have.

Comments?

post #2 of 13

Welcome to EpicSki!

 

If you haven't planned your trip out west yet, please take a look at the info about the EpicSki Gathering at Big Sky the last week of March.  There is great tree skiing there for advanced intermediates in glades that have been deliberately thinned.

 

I learned to ski at Whiteface.  But haven't skied there in a long time.

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hi marznc,

 

Our ski trips are planned around the school breaks ;)  But thanks for the info anyway. Btw, I am not that great tree skier, I enjoy it but realize that there are a lot to learn. I would like to get better on moguls/bumpy trails, have yet to figure out how to work around my knee problems.

post #4 of 13

Have you considered the Blizzard Viva 8.1? It holds a great edge on the groomers and will give you a little more width for softer snow but not too much for the hard pack. Or bump up to the Attraxion 8 if you do not want to go as wide as the Viv 8.1

post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by FunnyGirl View Post

Hi, 

 

I am not sure if I need new skis yet, may be just looking for the directions ;) Below are my answers,btw. Looking for the input/advise.Thanks.

 

Where in the world are you skiing?

East cost 80% of the time: PA(Blue Mt,Camelback etc), Whiteface, Killington. Plus usually 1 week/year in Colorado(A-Basin, Loveland)

What kinds of terrain do you prefer (groomed runs, moguls, race course, park'n'pipe, trees, steeps, backcountry/sidecountry)?

Mostly groomed runs, occasional tree skiing 

How many days a year do you ski?  

15-20

How advanced are you as a skier?

I think Intermediate/Advanced. In PA I prefer black or blue speedy trails(like Razors Edge on Blue), on Whiteface I feel more comfortable on blues. I have bad knees, so have to be careful around bumps.  

 

What's your height and weight?

170cm, 65kg(145?lb)

 

How did/will you buy your boots?

I have older(about 7yo) Lange 7.5 boots I like. I will need new footbeds this year but in general they are in good condition.

 

So far I have 2 skis: 

1. Dynastar Speed Drive, probably around 7yo; 168cm. They served me good but once in Colorado we run into big powder days. I realized that  my knees just scream pain when I tried to turn knee-deep in the snow. Most likely, just my lack on powder skills, I know.

So I got:

2. Rossignol Attraxtion 5, 154cm. Very soft,light, easy to turn. Did not tried to use them in powder, but they are reasonably good in the slush and beaten trails. Good in trees.  I liked them first, and used almost exclusively during last couple years,  but have a feeling that I do not learn from them anymore. They flatter when running fast.

 

My perfect skis would be something with very good ice grip, reasonably stiffness and easy turning(knees, again)

 

So I am not sure, should I go back to Dynastar's for typical EastCost icy days and use Rossy for trees/spring/slush.

Or is it better to get something new and retire what i have.

Comments?

Welcome to EpicSki! 

 

First of all, you're on the right track with upgrading your gear, but looking at your answers to the questions, I'd say you should really consider getting new boots along with new skis. 

 

You CAN ski on your current skis and still have fun, but there are soooo many new skis that have improved technology........well, you'd do well to demo and see what we're talking about. 

 

With your size and ability, I'd say you may want to try some skis that will have the patience and forgiveness to let you improve,but will also have the substance to take you to the next level in your skiing experience. 

 

Skis that come to mind for a great demo list, 

Drum Roll..........

Blizzard Black Pearl - off piste bias

Blizzard 8.0 - On Piste Bias

Nordica Wild Belle - On Piste bias

Atomic Elysian - Off piste and powder bias

Rossignol Temptation 88 (or 82 for that matter)  On piste bias. 

 

 

I'm sure I forgot a few, but this should get you started with some ideas of what's out there that will take you to the next level in your skiing and open up more of the mountain for you. 

post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by FunnyGirl View Post

Hi marznc,

 

Our ski trips are planned around the school breaks ;)  But thanks for the info anyway. Btw, I am not that great tree skier, I enjoy it but realize that there are a lot to learn. I would like to get better on moguls/bumpy trails, have yet to figure out how to work around my knee problems.

I completely understand about planning around school breaks.  I also do one ski trip a season out west with adult friends.  My hubby doesn't ski, so he manages things for my daughter while I'm gone.  I take her out to Alta during her spring break.  We ski weekends at Massanutten in northern VA.  Can't quite reach PA.

 

I didn't used to think tree skiing would be worth it.  But have since learned that finding powder under the trees several days after a dump makes it worth the effort to learn enough to enjoy widely spaced trees where it's not too steep.

post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 

I am kind of puzzled with the new boot advice.  I think I know what I am looking  for in the new skis. Whlie I agree that newer is better, I am not sure what I need from new boots. I like my current one: theyhave high calves and hold me tight there. I would prefer less space in the ankle/foot area, but that's why I am going to see a bootfiter in couple weeks. Do you think it is a waste of money and I should get the new boots instead? What should I look for? More stiffness?

I remember when trying on the boots I got I also tried  Lange 100 boots, probably more advanced. And I found that they were lover and did not secured my leg nearly as good. The size was the same, so I either overlook something or these boots were just not right for me. 

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by FunnyGirl View Post

I am kind of puzzled with the new boot advice.  I think I know what I am looking  for in the new skis. Whlie I agree that newer is better, I am not sure what I need from new boots. I like my current one: theyhave high calves and hold me tight there. I would prefer less space in the ankle/foot area, but that's why I am going to see a bootfiter in couple weeks. Do you think it is a waste of money and I should get the new boots instead? What should I look for? More stiffness?

I remember when trying on the boots I got I also tried  Lange 100 boots, probably more advanced. And I found that they were lover and did not secured my leg nearly as good. The size was the same, so I either overlook something or these boots were just not right for me. 

None of the answers in this thread mentioned new boots.  If you are working with a boot fitter, I would think you are in good shape.  Note that many newbies asking about advice for skis haven't ever bought a pair of boots from a boot fitter, so that's why they are often given advice that is essentially "boots first, skis later."

 

My understanding is that boots should fit snugly.  If you want a bit more breathing room, that's one of the advantages of getting something like an Intuition liner. They are heat molded while the foot had "toe caps" so when it's finished, toes get more room but the ankles are snug.  End result is better circulation so most people find their feet stay warmer.  I added Intuition liners last spring.  Also like having custom footbeds, especially since those can be moved to a different boot later on if I decide to make a change.

post #9 of 13

Marznc touched on it nicely. 

Its not about new boots, its about properly fitting boots.  If yours are 7 years old, then you may be in the market for new boots, but that depends on how many days you have into them and how good of a fit you started with. 

post #10 of 13

If your boots are seven years old, the liners may be, and probably are, getting packed out from use and age.  I highly recommend you visit a competent and reliable boot fitter before worrying about skis.  You may think the boots fit you well because they feel comfortable but they may feel that way because they're too big, either too long or too wide or both.  Go to the Ask the Boot Guys forum and read the wiki about fitting and then look at the list of fitters and see if there is one near you.  If there is, call and make an appointment.  If your boots are too big, which I'm guessing they now are, your skiing will improve just from having boots that fit.  If the shell of your current boot is the right size, consider getting Intuition liners.  When I got Intuition liners for my old boots I got rid of the Hotronic heaters because my feet were no longer cold, the boots also fit better than they ever did.  Last season I bought new boots and bought a pair that came with Intuition liners.  Dalbello and Full Tilt are, I think, the only companies that offer some boot models with Intuition liners.

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone!

 

I am seeing the boot fitter next week so we'll see.  I believe that my current boots are the right length, but they might be too wide. Hope that the foot bed could help here. Not that I'm opposed to new boots, but I would like to keep up with the budget;)

Again, I really appreciate all advises, just trying to sort out what needs to be done this upcoming season.

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by FunnyGirl View Post

Thanks everyone!

 

I am seeing the boot fitter next week so we'll see.  I believe that my current boots are the right length, but they might be too wide. Hope that the foot bed could help here. Not that I'm opposed to new boots, but I would like to keep up with the budget;)

Again, I really appreciate all advises, just trying to sort out what needs to be done this upcoming season.

Please report back and let us know how it goes.  AND we'll do what we can to let you know when/if we find a great deal on skis that you may fall in love with. 

 

Remember what Philpug says.........

You marry your boots but you date your skis. 

 

I guess that makes me a boot. biggrin.gif

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

I guess that makes me a boot. biggrin.gif

 

That's better than getting the boot!roflmao.gif

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