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NASTAR Eastern Championships will be hosted by Okemo Mountain Feb 1-3, 2013

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Okemo to host Eastern Championships

Mark your calendar for Feb 1-3, 2013 and plan on joining us at Okemo Mountain in Ludlow, VT for the Eastern Championships. Okemo has hosted NASTAR since the 1960s and has long been a strong supporter of the program. The races will be held on Bull Run right at the base area.

Pat Moore
NASTAR Coordinator
Okemo Mountain

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Due to the popularity of the Nature Valley NASTAR National Championships we are adding an Eastern Championship. The Nature Valley NASTAR Eastern Championships provides recreational racers with an opportunity to compete against their peers in a modified GS race on Saturday and with their family members and friends in a team competition on Sunday. There will be race clinics, races, a sponsor village, live music, Warren Miller movies, professional pacesetters, autograph sessions and more.

Participants will compete within their age and ability group on Saturday and the top three racers in each division will win awards and automatically qualify for the Nature Valley NASTAR National Championships to be held at Aspen/Snowmass, CO March 20-24. In addition, the 1st place racer in each age, gender, division and discipline will be invited to compete in the Race of Champions on Sunday. The Race of Champions is a handicapped race where young and old have an opportunity to win the Overall NASTAR Eastern Championship title based on their discounted time. And, the male and female racers that post the fastest raw times during the Race of Champions will win complimentary entry to the National Championships.
The team competition will take place on Sunday after the Race of Champions and family members and friends will compete in teams of three or more for team titles. Team members will score points for their team based on the handicap they earn in their age and gender group. NASTAR Team Points are a great way to level the playing field so that young and old racers have an equal opportunity to contribute to their teams' success.
Schedule
  • Feb. 1, Friday * Okemo will host race clinics for interested participants. Contact them for details: 802-228-4041
  • Feb. 2, Saturday * Nature Valley Eastern Championships
    • 9:30am Junior Racers 20 years and younger
    • 12:30 Adult Racers 21 years and older
      • All participants will take two race runs but only the best race run handicap will count for awards
    • 9am-3pm * Sponsor Village Open
    • 3-4pm Warren Miller Movie
    • 4pm-6pm Awards and Racer Reception
    • 6pm Live Music
  • Feb. 3, Sunday * Race of Champions & Team Racing
    • 9:30am Female Race of Champions
    • 10:30am Male Race of Champions
    • 12:30 Team Race
      • Family Teams
      • Friends Teams
Entry Fee
$59 Entry fee includes
  • NASTAR Eastern Championships entry
  • Family/Friends Team race entry
  • Gift bags
  • Awards Reception
  • Warren Miller film screening
  • Sponsor Village
  • Live Music
  • Celebrity Pacesetters
  • Discounted lift tickets
  • Discounted lodging
post #2 of 11

Pat, I understand that you are just trying to promote this since you work at Okemo, but...

 

There is no way I'm going to shell out several hundred dollars to come up to Okemo for the weekend to race at a "championship" that is held on a green run with a course vertical drop of 130 feet.

 

It is absurd that NASTAR would even consider to hold the Eastern's on Bull Run! At least last year at Wachusett, the course on Challenger had a 350 foot vertical drop, and Challenger is by no means a tough trail to ski, even for a low-intermediate skier.

 

Now, I fully understand this is NASTAR, and not league or USSA racing, but the whole reason I stopped doing NASTAR at Okemo was because of the last time they moved the course over to Bull Run around 10 years ago. It was a total joke.

 

Okemo charges a premium price for everything: tickets, food, and lodging, and for that premium charge I would expect the Eastern Championships would be held on at least a somewhat interesting trail. Sorry, there is no way I can justify putting out that kind of money for something like this.
 

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Originally Posted by CaptainKirk View Post

Pat, I understand that you are just trying to promote this since you work at Okemo, but...

 

There is no way I'm going to shell out several hundred dollars to come up to Okemo for the weekend to race at a "championship" that is held on a green run with a course vertical drop of 130 feet.

 

It is absurd that NASTAR would even consider to hold the Eastern's on Bull Run! At least last year at Wachusett, the course on Challenger had a 350 foot vertical drop, and Challenger is by no means a tough trail to ski, even for a low-intermediate skier.

 

Now, I fully understand this is NASTAR, and not league or USSA racing, but the whole reason I stopped doing NASTAR at Okemo was because of the last time they moved the course over to Bull Run around 10 years ago. It was a total joke.

 

Okemo charges a premium price for everything: tickets, food, and lodging, and for that premium charge I would expect the Eastern Championships would be held on at least a somewhat interesting trail. Sorry, there is no way I can justify putting out that kind of money for something like this.
 


      This seems a bit harsh.  The nice thing about events like the Eastern race is it gives people a taste of the Finals without the travel, maybe they'll attend the Finals based on the experience. Sure maybe the run is not as long, steep, etc,  but I've been to races where 130 vert  meant they had an elevated start shack.

  Good Luck Pat

post #4 of 11
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If you feel that strongly you should take a pass on entering.  I'm just wondering if you're confusing the start point on Bull Run that's used for the Mt. Dew events.  That makes for a short course.
 
I've made a lot of competitive runs at Wachusett, last year included, and obviously a lot at Okemo.  Neither course will be confused with Winter Park's Lower Hughes courses but few NASTAR courses can be. Both of the aforementioned are fun and challenging.  A half dozen Wachusett regulars came to Okemo to spend the day racing our NASTAR course last year and had a blast.  Some made a return trip.  
 
Several racers choose Okemo as their base to train for the Nationals.  The venue certainly worked for me last year.
 
On both skis and snowboard I've competed at eight Nationals and three Opens on a wide variety of courses of varying length and difficulty.  The one common denominator was that they were all fun.  There's no reason to expect anything else this coming February.

Edited by patmoore - 9/28/12 at 5:53am
post #5 of 11

JPL, My intent was not to bash Pat. If it sounded that way, I'm sorry. I have met Pat in the past, I like him, and I respect what he has accomplished in NASTAR. My beef is with NASTAR. I don't know if you have ever been to Okemo, but the trail they are planning to have the Eastern Nationals is as flat and green as they come. That trail is basically a "learn to ski" area, not something you should have a regional race on. Even at the NASTAR level.

 

Pat, I am very familiar with that trail, so I'm not mistaking where you start and finish. In fact, that trail is where I learned to snowboard 2 decades ago from none other than Gordon Robbins. From top to bottom, Bull Run probably has only about 300' vertical, and I know you guys are using maybe a quarter of it for your NASTAR course. Ok, I realize this isn't the 85 mph citizen's Downhill they have up at Jay Peak, but still, I would expect something somewhat challenging (for NASTAR) if it is going to be called the Eastern Nationals. Then again, maybe I'll stop up in January for a few runs and have a change of heart for this event...

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Originally Posted by CaptainKirk View Post. Then again, maybe I'll stop up in January for a few runs and have a change of heart for this event...

Please do. 

 

There are more challenging layouts at the mountain but having the event right at the base area significantly enhances the experience for competitors and spectators alike. Moving the course last year resulted in a big increase in our participation numbers.  I don't have any video of ski racing on Bull Run but did manage to dig out some footage of a few of us running stubbies on snowboards last year. 

 

post #7 of 11

Looks like pretty standard fare for NASTAR to me. Not sure why the objection to hosting a national event there. It's still NASTAR, after all, right? It's supposed to be accessible. Not only that, but building and keeping speed on a flat course is not an easy thing to do. It may not be glamorous or as thrilling as a fast, steep course, but it is a real test of skill. I should know; I grew up racing in Ohio and never did manage to go fast :)

post #8 of 11

      "Its still NASTAR, after all,right?'  

 I'd say that pretty much sums it up.

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Could photographers walk up to the barrier of the course to take pictures.
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Originally Posted by limemoya View Post

Could photographers walk up to the barrier of the course to take pictures.

Not a problem.

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It's just a week and a half off! 

 

Details

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Schedule

  • Feb. 1, Friday * Okemo will host race clinics for interested participants. Contact them for details:  802-228-1483 
    • Ski with AJ Kitt and some of Okemos best pros.
    • 12:00pm-5:00pm Preregister Racers can pick up their race packets & Late Registration Clock Tower Base Lodge

     

  • Feb. 2, Saturday * Nature Valley Eastern Championships
    • 8:00am-12:00pm Preregister Racers can pick up their race packets & Late Registration Clock Tower Base Lodge
    • 9am - 3pm Visit the Sponsor Village in the Clock Tower Base Area
    • 10:00am Junior Racers 20 years and younger on the NASTAR Race Arena on Bull Run
    • 12:30 Adult Racers 21 years and older
      • All participants will take two race runs but only the best race run handicap will count for awards
      • Racers will be placed in either the Platinum/Gold division or the Silver/Bronze division depending on the best handicap earned.
    • 6 - 9:30pm Awards & Racer Reception in the Clock Tower Base Lodge, including Warren Miller's Flow State - Director's Cut, Awards Ceremony, Prize Raffle and Live Music - Pete Kilpatrick Band
  • Feb. 3, Sunday * Race of Champions & Team Racing
    • 9:00 am Start lists available. Late team registration Clock Tower Base Lodge
    • 10:00am Female Race of Champions
    • 10:30am Male Race of Champions
    • 12:30 Team Race
      • Family Teams
      • Friends Teams

Entry Fee

Click Here to Register

$59 Entry fee includes

$15 Guest credentials for Warren Miller Movie, Awards Reception & Live Music

  • NASTAR Eastern Championships race entry
  • Family/Friends Team race entry
  • Gift bags
  • Awards Reception
  • Raffle entry
  • Warren Miller film screening
  • Sponsor Village
  • Live Music
  • Celebrity Pacesetters
  • Discounted lift tickets
  • Discounted lodging

Lift Ticket Prices (for Friday – Sunday)
 
Daily Fees:
$55 Adult (19-64)
$45 Young adult (13-18) Seniors(65-69)
$35 Juniors(7-12) Super Seniors (70+)
 
3-day package
$145 Adult(19-64)
$124 Young adult (13-18) Seniors (65-69)
$99 Juniors (7-12) Super Seniors (70+)
 
All Participants and Guests six (6) years of age and under shall receive a complimentary lift ticket for use during the Event.

Participants are eligible to purchase lift tickets for family members and guests during the event at the discounted rate.

Guests with a credential may purchase lift tickets for the discounted rate.

Credentials will get you on the lift at 8:00 AM each day, Friday – Sunday.

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