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Strong female skier, Blizzard Viva 8.0 or Magnum 8.0 CA? Different?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Given the same length ski, say 165 and a very strong (PSIA Level II) overweight female skier who currently skis on Fischer Race SC in 160:

Are the Viva 8.0 and Magnum 8.0 CA really different from each other, and if so, how so? Could the Magnum perhaps be better for a woman carrying a bit more weight than the Viva?
post #2 of 19

Oooh .. might want to rethink your phrasing there .. I've gotten in lots of trouble for lots less!  duck.gif

One hopes that she doesn't read this forum too often.  Otherwise you may have to throw in lots of flowers with those skis biggrin.gif

post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Who? This is just a hypothetical right?
post #4 of 19

i think you should shoot off a mail to blizzard. get the official word.

 

Wouldn't be the first time.  The crush/The one are supposedly the same except for topsheets and some different lengths.

post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
Good idea Ray, just done. Will report back.
post #6 of 19

I have a question about SkiMangoJazz's PSIA Rating. How does a person get a PSIA rating? Is it a rating meant for any skier or for ski instructors only? I've always wondered the type of skier level that I'm at. I do not really know if I'm an Intermediate or Advanced Intermediate or what. From what I've read on this forum and the ski mags, I do know I'm not an expert skier. So is there way of getting a rating of skill level? I never thought of asking a ski instructor what their assessment of my skill level would be. Would that be a good way to find out?

post #7 of 19

psia rating is a certification with an exam.

read more here

http://www.thesnowpros.org/BeaSkiorSnowboardInstructor.aspx

 

It is only for ski professionals (instructors), not meant for rating students, and judges their ability to teach as well as their skill.

 

It is like when you hire a contractor they have a contractor's license.  

Or when you do real estate, you get an agent, or a broker or other certified "professional".

Or when you do financial stuff, you get a CPA etc etc.

 

Your skier ability "rating" is discussed in many threads thread, and sort of standardized, but is not a formal test:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/45066/how-to-determine-your-level

http://www.epicski.com/t/40769/ability-rankings

(search and follow links)

 

If you take a lesson, you can always ask the instructor how they rate you, and what you should work on next.

post #8 of 19

They're very similar.  The Viva 8.0 will be slightly softer but the difference will not be that much.  The way the fiberglass is laid up in the ski is the biggest difference.  You would only be able to feel the difference on very hard snow.

post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks wasatchback, I still haven't hear back from Blizzard and I called them as well.

Since you seem to know the gear, do you know if there's any difference between the 2012 and the 2013 Viva Magnum 7.6 skis? I'm thinking this may be a better ski for her and she prefers the graphics on the 2012 model. smile.gif
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by raytseng View Post

If you take a lesson, you can always ask the instructor how they rate you, and what you should work on next.

 

This. If more people took lessons instead of buying skis, and then when they were ready to buy skis, bought boots instead, we'd have 1) waaay fewer threads in the ski forums here eek.gif, but 2) a lot better experience on the mountain biggrin.gif

post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by wasatchback View Post

They're very similar.  The Viva 8.0 will be slightly softer but the difference will not be that much.  The way the fiberglass is laid up in the ski is the biggest difference.  You would only be able to feel the difference on very hard snow.

This......

Not sure why I didn't see this earlier, but I've skied both and am impressed with how substantial the Viva 8.0 is. 

post #12 of 19
Thread Starter 
Well I ended up buying her a pair of the 2012 Viva 7.6 IQ @163.

TC's "little black dress."

I think it will suit her style more as she's been on a Slalom type ski for years.

I on the other hand will be moving from my Magnum 7.6 to my new Magnum 8.0 CA's with Marker Griffon bindings.


(7.6's are for sale on another thread.)
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post

Well I ended up buying her a pair of the 2012 Viva 7.6 IQ @163.
TC's "little black dress."
I think it will suit her style more as she's been on a Slalom type ski for years.
I on the other hand will be moving from my Magnum 7.6 to my new Magnum 8.0 CA's with Marker Griffon bindings.
(7.6's are for sale on another thread.)

Seriously, it is.  "Little Black Dress that every woman needs in her closet"

There were a lot of ski instructors on the 2012 Viva 7.6 out here last year.  Its a very under rated ski that skis really well.  

post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
Cool, I showed her pictures of all of these skis just in conversation. She didn't like the look of the 2013 7.6 (which we can get pro-deal) the Viva 8.0 is the most attractive of all of them, but she did like the black 7.6 2012's. Now I just keep them hidden until her birthday in November. She never reads epic by the way.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

Seriously, it is.  "Little Black Dress that every woman needs in her closet"

There were a lot of ski instructors on the 2012 Viva 7.6 out here last year.  Its a very under rated ski that skis really well.  

 

Under-rated?  Didn't they sweep the top spots in their category in the magazine tests a couple years ago? 
 

post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by nwjg View Post

 

Under-rated?  Didn't they sweep the top spots in their category in the magazine tests a couple years ago? 
 

The Viva 7.6 seems to be a ski that is overlooked by many female skiers.  

post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
two weeks plus to her birthday, can't wait to give them to her.

She bought new boots, Salomon and they're also black, sliver and gold.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

The Viva 7.6 seems to be a ski that is overlooked by many female skiers.  


That I totally agree with.  For as good as they are and how well they have been reviewed I'm surprised that I almost never see them on the hill.

post #19 of 19

Asking just to ask......

 

Do people actually choose a ski based on the graphics?

 

So people can admire them while you're carrying them around....'cause other than that they're kinda covered with snow, no?

 

And your pants cover your boots....

 

Eh, I guess these are probably the same people who trick out the entire fam including the 3 year olds in Arc'teryx and Spyder gear.

 

Bleh.

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