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Looking for the ski that does it all - a fast, long radius all mountain ski

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hey folks, I've spent the past weeks reading reviews, forum posts and marketing drivel from the manufacturers' websites looking for my new ski - and obviously was a little overwhelmed with the choices available.

I am 187cm (6'2") and 95kg (210lbs), mid-twenties, been skiing all my life, and up until last year usually skied on long race carvers (really enjoyed a Völkl Racetiger GS in 180 last season in the Swiss alps) with fairly large radii. Currently working in Turkey, been exploring the ski resorts here, and the very mixed conditions and the absolutely shitty rental equipment here made me want to buy a pair of all mountain skis that would be a compromise of decent corduroy performance with a little rocker and a wider waist to give some float when the fresh powder comes or the slopes haven't been groomed for days on end. Realistically I would guess I spend 70% on- and 30% off-piste.

Because I usually end up having to fly some place to go skiing for a few days buying two pairs isn't really an option at this point unfortunately...

 

So, I came up with a few skis that would fit the bill - at least on paper:

 

Salomon Enduro XT 850 or 800 (probably rather in 184 than in 177, havent found very much about it on the internet except some reviews on previous models)

Rossignol Experience 88 (every reviewer seems to have a different opinion on this one)

Völkl Kendo

Stöckli Stormrider VXL

Kästle MX 88

Scott Reverse (had to throw in an oddball)

K2 Rictor

 

What are your thoughts, have you tried any of these? Any more you could recommend?

 

Thanks a bunch in advance, cheerio from Istanbul


Edited by BobbyOnSkis - 9/21/12 at 8:49am
post #2 of 16

of those, kastle mx 88 hands down. that's just my .02

post #3 of 16

For the money,  Soloman Enduro xt 850 for sure, not the 800 for you.   Kendo is an great ski as well , don't forget about the RTM 84 it rips. 

I HAVE NOT skied the MX88 but it has nothing but rave reviews, so I guess that would be no brainer BUT at a high cost $$$$.  

You will be thrilled with any of these.   

post #4 of 16

DPS Wailer 99 should be on your list.

post #5 of 16

Blizzard Magnum 8.5 TI or the Bonafide.

post #6 of 16

This is easy. Your a Volkl guy, me too. I love my Kendo's I'm 6ft 200lbs, ski them in 177cm I have the Salomon 912Ti bindings nice light set up.

post #7 of 16

Better include the Nordica Enforcer...skis like a 98mm wide GS race carver with some rocker thrown in...how can you wrong

post #8 of 16

Have you considered some Blizzard Magnum 8.7's

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I think someone in Gear Swap is selling some  biggrin.gif

post #9 of 16

Best: MX88

 

Value: 88mm Kendo, 98mm Enforcer, 93mm Sentinel. 

post #10 of 16

Rossi E98 over the E88 for your size and stated preference, that's for sure.

post #11 of 16

Since you didn't list anything over 90mm wide, I'll assume that you don't want the various 98mm skis suggested so far. From your list, the Kastle is the class of the field if you can afford it. If not, the Enduro 850 is the stiffer of the two Enduro models and is more stable and especially more damp than the Volkl Kendo. The E-88 is a fine ski but probably has more sidecut than you want.

 

OTH......if you change your mind and decide that you do want a wider ski then the ones mentioned would be good choices.

 

SJ

post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 

Wow, thanks for the responses so far! What an active community - I'm blown away ;)

 

And another wow, you managed to wet my appetite for the Kästle... I still have to find a realistic street price for it in continental Europe, contacted a couple of dealers already. With the MX 88 though I wouldn't know which size to pick, would you think the 178 is too short? Seems to be a stiff ski, so I don't think I would be overpowering it at that length...

 

I am a bit cautious with over 90s - reckon they might be a little 'too much' for what I am looking for, don't want to ruin the on-piste performance just to get that little bit more lift - so I stuck to 80s for now. Looking at the RTM 84 now as well, read some not so great reviews about that one, similar to the Rossi E88 and E98 really :/

 

Some more reading to be done then, my brain is buzzing with skis! :D

 

Have a great weekend everyone!


Edited by BobbyOnSkis - 9/22/12 at 9:18am
post #13 of 16
I don't know what you've heard negatively about the E98, but at your size, weight, and ability, it should be in the top 2 or 3 skis you're considering. Spent about 50-60 days on them last season on everything from rock hard groomers to 15" of fresh, and loads of cut up crud of all consistencies. For a skier over 180 lbs, it's a great ride. Under that, and you won't like them. The 180 will most likely be the ticket. I've demoed a fair number of skis, and for a 200 lbs skier, the extra waist gives a degree of off piste versatility that most piste oriented alll mountain skis just don't have, and yes amazingly enough, without sacrificing piste performance.

In the end, if you boiled your list down to the MX 88 and the E98, you'd have two great skis. Either would serve you well. The salomon 850 looks nice as well, as is the Blizzard 8.5ti (this ski will have a speed limit at your weight... The E98 won't)
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by BobbyOnSkis View Post

Wow, thanks for the responses so far! What an active community - I'm blown away ;)

 

And another wow, you managed to wet my appetite for the Kästle... I still have to find a realistic street price for it in continental Europe, contacted a couple of dealers already. With the MX 88 though I wouldn't know which size to pick, would you think the 178 is too short? Seems to be a stiff ski, so I don't think I would be overpowering it at that length...

 

I am a bit cautious with over 90s - reckon they might be a little 'too much' for what I am looking for, don't want to ruin the on-piste performance just to get that little bit more lift - so I stuck to 80s for now. Looking at the RTM 84 now as well, read some not so great reviews about that one, similar to the Rossi E88 and E98 really :/

 

Some more reading to be done then, my brain is buzzing with skis! :D

 

Have a great weekend everyone!

Dude,  for you

Enduro xt 850 in a 184,

or Kastle mx88 in a 188

RTM 84 in a 181

 

ALL THREE ARE GREAT SKI"S  ,   screw the bad reviews (they get low marks for flotation because they are not super wide, but you would really have to SUCK at powder to not make any of these ski's rip) ,  The Enduro ROCKS and was ski of the year 2 years ago in some magazine and won some awards and I can tell you it Jams,  RTM 84 ROCKS ski of the year last year in some magazine and won awards and Jams just as much as the Enduro, (i have ridden them back to back to back to back...)   , MX88 I hear is awesome, and has won lots of awards,   but again big $$$ (don't forget you have to purchase bindings with the MX88's and worry about theft, I would love a pair but ,, just saying). ,  YOU CAN"T GO WRONG with ANY OF THESE SKIS ! 

Good luck, but you will not make a bad decision.  

post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 

Okay, so I got a little further. In my list the RTM 84 is now on number one, the XT 850 close behind - I'm still not sure about the Rossis, from what I have read they tend to be rather soft, and the E98 would be a little too wide for everyday use (never skied a ski that wide to be honest).

I now got an offer for a Stöckli Stormrider VXL in 179, that would sell flat for the price of an RTM 84 with bindings :/ Also something to consider. The Völkl is already 100€ more than the Salomons, never mind the Rossignols, those seem very reasonably priced. Anyway, I like that the Völkl seems to be on the stiff side, the length of 181 should be perfect then, radius would be right in the range. Still waiting for a response from the Kästle dealers (obviously no one would answer during the weekend, duh!), but probably the chances are slim that I could get one for less than 1000€ with some bindings on it biggrin.gif

 

On a different note - its interesting how reviews differ from country to country - ze Germans seem to prefer the stiffer, longer radius skis, ze French like the soft playfulness of the Rossis, the Swiss vote patriotic and place the Stöcklis on top. Always. rolleyes.gif

post #16 of 16

I'm still thinking the Kendo in maybe 184cm is what you'll be happiest on.

 

You assked about wider skis earlier. I can railroad track my 106mm Volkl Gotoma's like I can my AC40's. It's all about the skills you have, Take a lesson or two.

 

You have to want to do it, you have to want to learn how to ski better with less effort.

 

It is possible. You have to want it. Then you have to practice so the muscles learn the movement pattern.

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