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post #1 of 16
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In a surprise move the Winter X Games 2013 in Aspen will not be holding Ski X and Snowboard X. The organisers believe it doesn't sit well in the event anymore. The athletes are disappointed and it is not clear exactly why the events have been axed.

 

http://www.planetski.eu/news/4123

post #2 of 16

I read about this awhile back in another article somewhere, and there wasn't all that clear a reason given there, either.

I find it difficult to believe that it's due to lack of popularity.  My strictly uninformed wild-ass guess is...too many injuries.

post #3 of 16

I had hoped that X-Games would pick up some mogul skiing events.  I am a bit bummed that the cross events were dropped and hope that they get picked up by either big mountain or USSA or something like that.  I guess that it could be that the costs, course construction, etc didn't measure up to the level of sponsorship for that event???  Of everything in X-Games it is the one event I could see myself desiring to compete in if I were younger.  Too bad,  It's probably over if the Olympics also drop it..

post #4 of 16

the cross events are governed by FIS
 

post #5 of 16

I loved the first Skiercross they held -- I think it was at Crested Butte. It was a Chinese downhill type of start. Guys were crashing right and left. I still enjoy watching the event now even though they took a lot of the thrill (or danger) out of it, but nothing compares to that first year. I have it on video tape and still dig it out occasionally. Freeze magazine even was predicting the winners in one of the issues.

post #6 of 16
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I was reading about Palmer skis online recently, and got curious about the company. I've only been tuned into skiing for less than 3 years now, so a lot of stuff is still new to me. Never had heard of Shaun Palmer, but the more I learned about him, the more I thought, this f'n guy is really amazing!

 

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Palmer

 

This is from that Wikipedia page...

 

In 2001, Palmer went head to head with the world's best professional skiers, winning the Skier cross event at the 2001 Winter X Games, as well as the Skier cross gold at the Gravity Games of the same year.

 

I mean, he was primarily a snowboarder, and he bested a bunch of pro skiers to win? She-ut!!

 

That is the race I'd really like to see, but I haven't been able to find any video of it online.

post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by jc-ski View Post

I was reading about Palmer skis online recently, and got curious about the company. I've only been tuned into skiing for less than 3 years now, so a lot of stuff is still new to me. Never had heard of Shaun Palmer, but the more I learned about him, the more I thought, this f'n guy is really amazing!

 

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Palmer

 

This is from that Wikipedia page...

 

In 2001, Palmer went head to head with the world's best professional skiers, winning the Skier cross event at the 2001 Winter X Games, as well as the Skier cross gold at the Gravity Games of the same year.

 

I mean, he was primarily a snowboarder, and he bested a bunch of pro skiers to win? She-ut!!

 

That is the race I'd really like to see, but I haven't been able to find any video of it online.

 

I believe Shaun Palmer was a skier and bud to skier Brad Holmes before snowboarding.  I think I remember reading in FREEZE the two were also in a punk band.

 

 

 


Edited by MidwestPete - 9/19/12 at 8:11pm
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by MidwestPete View Post

I loved the first Skiercross they held -- I think it was at Crested Butte. It was a Chinese downhill type of start. Guys were crashing right and left. I still enjoy watching the event now even though they took a lot of the thrill (or danger) out of it, but nothing compares to that first year. I have it on video tape and still dig it out occasionally. Freeze magazine even was predicting the winners in one of the issues.

Trying to find on YouTube to post but no luck yet.

post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 

MWP, the followup to the video you included in post #7 has a few seconds of footage of Palmer in a skiercross race...

 

 

Don't know which race or who he was competing against, but looked like he smoked the field!

post #10 of 16

I'll missed the roller derby on skis, which is probably a lot harder than it looks.

 

I once saw a boarder cross in Texas.  The fat white guys with the guns (INS agents) arrested a bunch of illegals who wanted to come to this country to work their tails off hoping to build a better life.  I always thought that is how the Olympics should work.  Send the losers back home in the back of a locked INS truck.  It would make some of the events--like curling--a lot more interesting.

post #11 of 16

The first X course at Crested Butte was designed by/for snowboarders and didn't work well for the faster skiers.  They were landing in the flats and there were a ton on injuries.

 

The Palm was a bad ass for sure.  But if I recall correctly, he was also the only skier with an  WC tech prepping his skis at Mt. Snow. There were a lot of talented free skiers in the field, but not any top WC racers. 

 

I really liked X live, but apparently it doesn't transfer to the small screen as well as some other events? 

I enjoyed the old X Games a lot more.  You used to be able to get up close to the venues and really experience the speed of the competitors and the heigth of the jumps.  Now it's a TV event, everything is roped off,  with security everywhere?

post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by MidwestPete View Post

I loved the first Skiercross they held -- I think it was at Crested Butte. It was a Chinese downhill type of start. Guys were crashing right and left. I still enjoy watching the event now even though they took a lot of the thrill (or danger) out of it, but nothing compares to that first year. I have it on video tape and still dig it out occasionally. Freeze magazine even was predicting the winners in one of the issues.

Scanned this pic out of FREEZE Magazine of some of the carnage from the 1998 SkierX from Crested Butte. Seth Morrison is in the stars and stripes.

 

 

 

Photo: Rob Gracie


Edited by MidwestPete - 9/20/12 at 6:48pm
post #13 of 16

I believe it has been dropped pending the result of the current lawsuits over the fatalities and other serious injuries - no ski resort wants to be subject to that liability. Too bad because it is entertaining would have liked to try it.    

post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 

Well, there's always this...

 

 

There's a section in that video starting at 1:41 where a skier (maybe Rahlves) straightlines a mogul field at full speed. Rahlves did that in the final this past year, in extremely low visibility/whiteout conditions! I don't know where that falls on the difficulty scale for an expert skier, but I found it simply amazing!

 

Here in its entirety - final run starts at 38:53...

 

 

The big mountain freeskiing-meets-skier event, concluded at Sugar Bowl Resort. The event featured head-to-head action with four competitors racing at the same time on a natural-terrain course that happened to have zero visibility because of a snowstorm.

 

 

Here's some helmet cam video of a Travis Wolfe Bonzai run...

 

 

This is footage from my helmet cam of the Banzai heats at alpine meadows, I took 6th place by a hair. the competition was tough, the course was insane and the conditions were icy. I think all of us were lunatics for even considering doing that race. It was by far the scariest comp of my life. Going as fast as you can over icy ruts with others right next to you is just nuts.


Edited by jc-ski - 9/20/12 at 7:24pm
post #15 of 16

FREEZE Magazine Winter 1998 - Skier X odds

 

 

post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 

Guess they'll be dropping Monoskier X as well. Too bad, this is maybe the most impressive thing I've seen!

 

 

That is inspiring!  And funny thing, there was a thread about it here on Epic, and the fellow who won posted!

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/65884/x-games-2008-monoskier-x

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