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post #1 of 9
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I have noticed that ski areas seem to be posting 2012-2013 season pass prices months ahead of posting daily lift ticket prices.  At least this seems to be the norm here on the east coast. 

 

Do you find it difficult to purchase a season pass without knowing what the daily lift ticket prices are? 

 

Is this something new or has it been gong on for sometime and I just didn't notice?

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Originally Posted by catskills View Post

I have noticed that ski areas seem to be posting 2012-2013 season pass prices months ahead of posting daily lift ticket prices.  At least this seems to be the norm here on the east coast. 

 

Do you find it difficult to purchase a season pass without knowing what the daily lift ticket prices are? 

 

Is this something new or has it been gong on for sometime and I just didn't notice?

 Yes, at least out here.

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Originally Posted by catskills View Post

I have noticed that ski areas seem to be posting 2012-2013 season pass prices months ahead of posting daily lift ticket prices.  At least this seems to be the norm here on the east coast. 

 

Do you find it difficult to purchase a season pass without knowing what the daily lift ticket prices are? 

 

Is this something new or has it been gong on for sometime and I just didn't notice?


I would say if you ski more than 10 days, then this is not a concern.

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I would say if you ski more than 10 days, then this is not a concern.

At Mt. Baker it takes 17 days to pay it off.

post #5 of 9

It's true here, but it's never been a close call for me.  They'd have to make the season pass over $3000 for me to start looking at daily passes....Wait, I don't have that much disposable income....  So, still not an issue.  ;)

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Originally Posted by catskills View Post

I have noticed that ski areas seem to be posting 2012-2013 season pass prices months ahead of posting daily lift ticket prices.  At least this seems to be the norm here on the east coast. 

 

Do you find it difficult to purchase a season pass without knowing what the daily lift ticket prices are? 

 

Is this something new or has it been gong on for sometime and I just didn't notice?

post #6 of 9

no, you can just make assume near the previous/current year price when making your purchase.  

 

If you are micromanaging and looking for a "break-even" point, even if the daily prices increase or decrease, it won't be so much to end up change the break-even point by more than a day (if that...). 

post #7 of 9

Out here the Tahoe Value Pass pays for itself in 4 days (if you purchase it early) and that is a great deal for the entire family.  Heavenly, Kirkwood and N* are part of the deal.  We have a place in Park City where the deals aren't as good, which means I'll be doing most of my limited x-country skiing days there. 

post #8 of 9

At my home mountain the early season pass price is half the full pass price if bought before June 30 and is the equivalent of purchasing 8 day tickets. While pass and day tickets prices go up from time to time the price ratio between passes and day tickets has remained the same for many years.

post #9 of 9

There's so much change out there, it's not a dead certainty that day passes will remain static. I recall, pre GFC, seeing the manuals on the trigger points for offering last minute deals, and since then, look at the reciprocal arrangements between resorts that now spans the northern and southern hemisphere.

 

The Mountain Collective pass for example is trying to shift people back to buying day passes, albeit at 50% off with a pre-purchase of a $350 pass. It's a hybrid to get the early bird cash upfront, lock you in to resorts, and get you thinking 'hey for $50 a day I'll head up this weekend'.

 

There'll be a sale soon that's like 'free slopeside apartment with kitchen with every day pass' (or vice versa)' i'm sure there'll be 'terms and conditions' :).

 

I know Australians can get 'ski 14 at Aspen for the price of 8 days'

 

Other deals try to push you towards affiliate resorts' day passes and lodging   like "Ski Mammoth free for 1 lousy day with our season pass coz we know you'll stay longer than 1 lousy day' or 'Ski 4 vallees free for 3 days with a full Epic pass coz we know you won't go to Verbier for 3 days', or "Ski a few free days in Japan with our pass" or  "Ski Sass Fee, Val gardene, Are and Lake Louise with a New Zealand resort season pass". There's a 'ski and stay 7 days at Copper or Winter Park deal for NZ passholders: Copper and WP appeal to the first time budget family trip for Kiwis that way, and there's a nice simple 20% off at Corcheval for Mt Buller pass holders.  

 

I think there's greater monitoring of visits and that'll result in discounts (ie 'strewth the season was lousy so lets whip out a 'buy 3 any day passes' for 40% off normal prices'  and midweek deals. A couple of lousy seasons ago, our manager offered managers specials that were really appealing.

 

There's also a shift away from the 'must book early to save' philosophy to the "I'll wait and see if there's snow and to see if I still have a job' philosophy.

 

There's also groupon deals and www.liftickets.com and the www.Snowbomb.com card to draw the day pass buyers in.

 

Overall I think we'll be moving into an age where smart beancounters and smart marketers will offer flexible deals quickly to entice the 'short visit non-diehard' people up at the last minute. Now if they really wanted to get people skiing more often for less per visit, they'd get a package deal of older unused ski gear out as part of the deal so people bought gear and learnt how to ski more often for less (and pay more per season than normal).


Edited by veteran - 9/9/12 at 4:02am
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