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Stout 44 yr old from CO. Need a new all mountain ski

post #1 of 16
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Need some ski advice to anyone who skied some of these skis from last year.

44 year old, live in co. 210 lbs and 5'8". Have been skiing for 42 years. Ski about 30-50 days per season. Mostly at Copper mountain and summit Cory.
Current skis
2008 Nordica hot rod jet fuel 186. (my favorite skis in a while)
2010 volkl gotama (186 or 19x). They aren't sitting here. Only use them for powder.

Prior to 2 seasons ago, I prefered skiing moguls, powder and some groomers. See to sking so pretty stiff skis.

Had back surgery in mar. 2011 and then again in 2012. Back is ok, not great. Left leg has some muscle weekness which I am trying to build back up and lose weight, but assuming it doesn't get much better.

Last year there were a few times where the old jet fuels were hard for me to maneuver. Especially with some crud. Looking into getting something that is a little shorter, lighter and maybe easier to turn. Want something that tracks well and isn't squirrelly when going fast. Mostly for groomers, crud, 6" or less of snow, trees.. Small moguls. I don't see myself doing a lot of moguls this year. Also looking for a deal. I want to replace the old Nordicas.

I was thinking maybe something that is 84-88, 178-183cm
Some deals I've found...
Blizzard bushwacker 2012 180. $460 no bindings. Local store
Atomic blackeye ti 180. $500 including bindings
Blizzard m-power 2011 181 $600 including bindings
Nordica burner 2012 $400 no bindings 178
Nordica jet fuel 2012 178 with bindings $540. (this place is a little sketchy though. Not sure if I would order from them)
Dynastar legend 85 178 or 184 $350. No bindings

Any other good deals out there or recommendations? I saw the info about the Nordica fire arrow 84 or kastle mx88, but I think those are out of my price range.
Edited by mogulman1 - 8/26/12 at 3:42pm
post #2 of 16
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Anyone?  Some of these deals are obviously not a lot of stock.... 

 

I'm kind of leaning towards the Blizzard due to some of the reviews on here.  Not sure if it will hold up to my weight though.

 

The other option that is enticing is the Nordica Jet Fuel or Burner.   Not really sure what the difference between this is, except that the burner is without bindings.  Are there any pros/cons to either?  What about pros/cons to flat skis vs integrated with bindings?
 

post #3 of 16

Have you considered pulling the curtain back even further and looking at your boot and stance setup again?

post #4 of 16

Know you're in Colorado, but Starthaus in Tahoe is the goto shop for a lot of folks here. They have good service and occasionally some very good price deals (often on Nordicas).

 

  http://shop.starthaus.com/store/pc/Skis-c2.htm

 

A few other places worth poking around that also sometimes have some very good deals!

 

  http://www.levelninesports.com (good binding deals - free binding mount)

  http://www.powder7.com (new and used/demo gear)

  http://www.coloradodiscountskis.com (lots of new-old stock skis, close enough for you to drive to)

  http://www.spadout.com (great search site for skis to compare prices)

 

And occasionally Recycle Sports in Frisco will have a gem hiding in their basement!  ;-)

 

Happy hunting!

post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

Have you considered pulling the curtain back even further and looking at your boot and stance setup again?


Eh?

post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by jc-ski View Post

Know you're in Colorado, but Starthaus in Tahoe is the goto shop for a lot of folks here. They have good service and occasionally some very good price deals (often on Nordicas).

 

  http://shop.starthaus.com/store/pc/Skis-c2.htm

 

A few other places worth poking around that also sometimes have some very good deals!

 

  http://www.levelninesports.com (good binding deals - free binding mount)

  http://www.powder7.com (new and used/demo gear)

  http://www.coloradodiscountskis.com (lots of new-old stock skis, close enough for you to drive to)

  http://www.spadout.com (great search site for skis to compare prices)

 

And occasionally Recycle Sports in Frisco will have a gem hiding in their basement!  ;-)

 

Happy hunting!


Thanks for the links..   Checking now...

 

Any suggestions on brands models?

post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by mogulman1 View Post


Eh?

 

You're currently looking at replacing your skis and bindings with the expectation that changing those could improve your experience post-recovery.      

 

My previous post can therefore be unpacked into: Do you have a good reason to stop there?    With a weaker, still-recovering left leg and a recovering, possibly tweaky back issue, is it not also reasonable to review the boot setup you're using?   Or do you not want to open that (possibly pricey, possibly budget-killing) can of worms?

 

Those questions looked so much more elegant when still packed.

post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

 

You're currently looking at replacing your skis and bindings with the expectation that changing those could improve your experience post-recovery.      

 

My previous post can therefore be unpacked into: Do you have a good reason to stop there?    With a weaker, still-recovering left leg and a recovering, possibly tweaky back issue, is it not also reasonable to review the boot setup you're using?   Or do you not want to open that (possibly pricey, possibly budget-killing) can of worms?

 

Those questions looked so much more elegant when still packed.


Ahhh ok..

 

Yeah..   I might look at that at some point.  Thanks.   I'm pretty set with my boots for now though.  I have some pretty funky feet and have spent a lot of time getting my boots to fit right.   The weakness in my left leg is in the quad.  It isn't totally weak where I can't ski.  I just get worn out more quickly through out the day.

post #9 of 16

I have some 184 Volkl Kendos I'd sell flat for 325 + ship or for 525 + ship with small barons.

 

Also have some 180 Blizzard bushwackers (the 2013 model) brand new in the wrapper I'd sell for 475 shipped to your door (there is someone in line for these right now though).

post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by esales09 View Post

I have some 184 Volkl Kendos I'd sell flat for 325 + ship or for 525 + ship with small barons.

 

Also have some 180 Blizzard bushwackers (the 2013 model) brand new in the wrapper I'd sell for 475 shipped to your door (there is someone in line for these right now though).

 



Thanks...I'll think about it.  I really need to figure out which ski I'm going to go for right now though.

 

I'm leaning towards the Bushwackers.  Seems like a good ski.  Just not sure if it will be stiff enough for me, without any metal.    Any difference between the 2012 and 2013 other than graphics?

post #11 of 16

No problem I honestly think the kendo is a tad stiffer than the bushwacker. It has a sheet of metal on the topsheet like the mantra if I remember correctly.

 

I didn't have any problem with the bushwacker being soft and im 6'1 190lbs and a former racer. Its not the stiffest ski out there, but its stiff enough to be a ton of fun.

 

No difference I know of between the 2012 and 2013 but I haven't really looked into it at all either. If you have any questions its easier to shoot me a private message so I can get a notification on my phone.

post #12 of 16
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The Nordica Burner or Jet Fuel look really interesting too.  They are a little shorter and narrower than the Blizzard Bushwacker.   Maybe they are stiffer also.    I really like my current HR Jetfuels.   I'm hoping the newer Nordicas are just as good.
 

post #13 of 16

Lighter/shorter and good in crud are kind of opposite directions. I suspect your Hot Rods are traditonal cambered skis. You will be amazed at the new technology were you can get a strong stiffish ski with metal that will turn on a dime and at the same time motor through crud. I skiied last season on the Blizzard Conchise- 2 1/2 sheets of metal, early rise tip (not huge) slight early rise tail and no camber. Amazing ski that did everything very well. The Bushwacker looks attractive and like many, many others I can vouch for the flipcore construction. My concern would be it might not be burly enough for your size and the Bonafide might be a better bet. Don't worry about it being too wide - the Cochise at 108 mm carves like an 85 mm all mountain when you lay it over.

post #14 of 16
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hmm.. .I didn't really want to go that wide.  Especially since I already have some powder skis. 

 

I know the bushwacker doesn't have metal really, but people say it is semi stiff.

 

Not sure on the Nordicas.

 

Dynastar seems to have metal, but I don't hear too much about them.  The clerks at the ski shops definitely play down the Dynastars.

post #15 of 16

Good talking to you on the phone, I think the Bush does fit well as a tweener ski for what you want to use it for. 

post #16 of 16
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I ended up ordering Blizzard Bushwacker 180 from Starthaus.  Amazing deal for $360.   Thanks for the info Phil.   I'm sure I'll love them.  Can't wait for the snow.

 

Got some Salomon Z12 BBR bindings from a local shop for $139.

 

Also picked up some Swix Performer poles for $35.

 

Where's the snow!!?

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