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post #1 of 17
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I'm thinking about either changing out and/or adding to my workout equipment.  I've always enjoyed using a rower and have been looking at them.  Did some research here and there and the Concept2 seems to get great reviews.  Through the PX, I can get a pretty good deal on the Kettler line.  Both have great reviews and are supposed to be well made.  I kind of like the idea of the Kettler as it is so quiet.  I tend to work out early morning while everyone else is sleeping.  I usually have the news on at the same time.  I'm in the basement so those sleeping probably won't hear the Concept2, but I wouldn't be able to hear the TV either.

 

Anyone know why I should pick one over the other with regards to the workout or machines performance/durability?

 

From what I can tell, whether you have a air, water or magnetic machine, as long as it is well made, you'll get a good workout and it will last.

 

Thanks,

Ken

post #2 of 17

concept2 hands down  no contest

The new ones are very quite.Model D with pm3 moniter goes for $900.00

post #3 of 17

You also have the Online Logbook.Track ,log your times and compare to others worldwide

post #4 of 17

I own 3 Model D's and 4 Model C's.

These things will kick your butt.The only thing that rivals them in pure evil (workout wise)is the Schwinn Airdyne

post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by loboskis View Post

concept2 hands down  no contest

The new ones are very quite.Model D with pm3 moniter goes for $900.00

 

Are you sure?  You seem like you could be swayed.  biggrin.gif

post #6 of 17

I use the concept2 at my gym.  Impressive machine - smooth, quiet, and it kicks butt.  the programs on the display are cool, like chasing fish or having a pacer, and the programs work well and are easy to use.  The machine seems to be built solidly and seems reliable.

post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by L&AirC View Post

 

Are you sure?  You seem like you could be swayed.  biggrin.gif

I just don't want to see you waste your money on some "other" type of "rowing" machine .

The Concept2 is the "gold standard",when peolple talk about indoor rowing ,this is what they are talking about. Also ,made right in Vermont,just a few miles from Stowe.

post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by loboskis View Post

I just don't want to see you waste your money on some "other" type of "rowing" machine .

The Concept2 is the "gold standard",when peolple talk about indoor rowing ,this is what they are talking about. Also ,made right in Vermont,just a few miles from Stowe.

 

I have yet to find a review on it that wasn't at least 4 out of 5 stars.  And not just a couple either.  On Amazon there were over 200 reviews and all good.  That's why I posted here.  Sounded too good to be true and I was skeptical.  I found some videos and they aren't as loud as I thought they would be.  The rowers from days gone by when I was in a gym a lot were fairly noisy and many times had an "Out of Order" sign on them (no idea who made them).  Concet2 is much quieter.  Now I just need to save my lunch money up.  Expect to be seeing some ski gear on the market soon smile.gif.

post #9 of 17
You can find them used on Craigslist for somewhat less than retail -- if you don't need all of the electronic doodads, the the model c should do you fine.
post #10 of 17
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But I like my doodads.

Actually, I find it helpful to monitor my heart rate and something that tells me if I'm starting to slow down. Since I watch the news and/or ski videos at the same time, I found myself getting distracted by the tv and slowing down on the bike I used to have. I now have a recumbent with all the doodads and that issue is gone.

I know the right thing to do is focus on. My workout, but I only get an hour of me time and it's my only chance to watch the news.
post #11 of 17

Concept2 is the gold standard in indoor rowing as far as I am concerned.  In terms of durability, I have seen and used machines as old as the Model B which s pretty old and still working fine.  I haven't seen any other machine I would prefer since I started rowing in high school.  Also, if you are willing to wait a little while, there are usually machines for sale at discount after the C.R.A.S.H.-B. event in Boston (usually in febuary sometime I think).   If I remember right, the machines get used for the event and then sold at a discount (so pretty close to new).

post #12 of 17

As far as I know all the Concept 2 models are either equipped or equip-able with electronic monitoring devices. Some are more advanced than others. Ours has an FM2 monitors that monitors heart rate, time, strokes per minute, calories, watts, equivalent distance rowed and probably a few other things I've forgotten. Their machines are great, very rugged, well made.

post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by L&AirC View Post

But I like my doodads.
Actually, I find it helpful to monitor my heart rate and something that tells me if I'm starting to slow down. Since I watch the news and/or ski videos at the same time, I found myself getting distracted by the tv and slowing down on the bike I used to have. I now have a recumbent with all the doodads and that issue is gone.
I know the right thing to do is focus on. My workout, but I only get an hour of me time and it's my only chance to watch the news.

The watt meter on the concept2 does a nice job of keeping you on task.  The games, like the fish game, can make things interesting.  for example, you have to modulate intensity in the fish game to avoid being eaten and you are awarded by eating smaller fish.  Other games help with tempo.  Fun doodads .  Also has ANT wireless for heart rate.

post #14 of 17

+1 on the concept2 -

 

The "ReRow" feature is an absolutely brutal way to keep yourself honest by training against your own pace.   The self-adaptive power meter that  senses back-EMF to adjust for being put next to a fan (or another Concept2) is brilliant.   All Concept2s do that.  The graphing power curve monitor for each pull is a direct  way to give feedback about joint bias.

 

Not a fan of the fish game - mostly because its too short ;-)

 

My biggest and only beef with the concept2s is the foot straps loosen up if they're mounted in the "Tighten by pulling the free end /outwards/" configuration, so that you either have to double the free-end over and run it through the buckle again, or  re-mount them in the "tighten by pulling the free end inwards" configuration.

post #15 of 17

Reliable? My Concept is 25 years old and has never had a problem.Its not loud.. And the new ones even have setups where you can race another boat on the TV screen.Much healthier than the news

post #16 of 17
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I've been negligent in following up on this.  I did get the Concept2 D with PM4.  Absolutely rock solid, well built and love it.  Set up was pretty easy.  If you can't do the set up, you shouldn't be allowed to use the rower anyway.  At least not without supervision.

I did get the iPhone accessory kit so I don't have to use the smart card.  I haven't fully explored all that the PM4 will do, but it does do quite a bit and I really like that you recharge the battery by rowing!  Heart monitor too.  You do need to make sure the chest strap sensors are wet.  Not moist, but wet.  That's more of a Garmin issue that Concept2 issue though.

 

Customer service was great too.  I placed a couple calls to them ahead of time to make sure I was getting what I really wanted.  They pretty much talked me out of the E model.  Also found out that they sell reconditioned ones for a bit cheaper but you have to pick them up (good deal for New Englanders - they aren't far from Stowe) and they also offer an Active Duty/Veterans discount.  I took advantage of the Veteran's discount so I ended up saving $242 all together or made the shipping and iPhone attachment free.  They were very helpful, answered all questions and put me well at ease.

 

I hate to admit it, but I wish I had ordered the seat pad.  I'm sure my butt will "toughen" up like it did cycling, but it's only $3.50.  Around 15-20 minutes in to a workout, you start noticing you don't have a pad.  My wife's only complaint is it is a little rough on the hands.  She and my daughter wear fingerless padded cycling gloves and all is good.  The pull handle is a bit thick and they felt a callus starting to form.  No different from lifting weights or the like.

 

Anyone considering getting a rower, Concept2 is definitely well built and worth.  I'm very happy with the purchase.  Have been using it for over a month.

 

Have fun,

 

Ken

post #17 of 17
The butt pad is nice especially for a bony butt like mine. I have the concept 2 mod D.
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