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I'm a beginner.  I only skied two days last season (I took one beginner lesson) but I think I'm a fairly solid beginner though I may just be overestimating myself.

Anyway, I'll be skiing a lot this season so I'm trying to get something (Twin-Tip) that will last me through beginner and well into intermediate.  I ski nearly all groomed.  I'm 5'10" & 120 lbs.

Can I get some input on which of these skis would better suit me?  Also which size should I get?

http://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/k2-amp-force.aspx

or

http://www.evo.com/skis/rossignol-experience-74-carbon-tpi/axium-100-bindings.aspx

 

Thanks in advance!

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I've skied twice in this E74 Carbon and I liked it a lot. Its also light, good for carry around. Its super easy intermediate ski, very stable. Easy to turn and also not hooky, so if you need to slow down or skid, it will allow you without any excessive drama.

If you want to jump and stuff the binding is a not so strong ( DIN 3-10), but as you are light, it might be enough

Its not twin tip, so if you want a twin tip then this is not it :)

If you are doing parks, go twin tip. If not, maybe not the best idea. The other big class of twintips are allmountain/big mountain twins, which you will probably not touch by now

 

About the size, usually rule is somewhere between -5cm or -15cm of your height, so probably the 166 for you

Thing is: if you are solid beginner and will be able to get a good amount of days in the snow, chances are you will want a new ski more powerful soon enough.

Maybe you should sort boots first and rent some skis (if thats economical for you, as the more you rent, more attractive it will look buying - if you will ski 15 day for example, maybe getter getting a used or demo ski)  and try to spend some time in the demo center?

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I've skied twice in this E74 Carbon and I liked it a lot. Its also light, good for carry around. Its super easy intermediate ski, very stable. Easy to turn and also not hooky, so if you need to slow down or skid, it will allow you without any excessive drama.

If you want to jump and stuff the binding is a not so strong ( DIN 3-10), but as you are light, it might be enough

Its not twin tip, so if you want a twin tip then this is not it :)

If you are doing parks, go twin tip. If not, maybe not the best idea. The other big class of twintips are allmountain/big mountain twins, which you will probably not touch by now

 

About the size, usually rule is somewhere between -5cm or -15cm of your height, so probably the 166 for you

Thing is: if you are solid beginner and will be able to get a good amount of days in the snow, chances are you will want a new ski more powerful soon enough.

Maybe you should sort boots first and rent some skis (if thats economical for you, as the more you rent, more attractive it will look buying - if you will ski 15 day for example, maybe getter getting a used or demo ski)  and try to spend some time in the demo center?

Boots are already sorted out.  I have the Salomon Mission RS8.  Are you sure it's not twin-tip?  It says both of them are "partial twin-tip."  What does that mean...?

And what should the DIN be?  I've been told for me, it should be around 4, so what's wrong with 3-10?

Also, I don't think I'm doing park, I think it's downhill.  It's a downhill slope with jumps and boxes and stuff all over.

 

I could afford to rent a couple times, but I figure by the time I'm done renting and I've figured out precisely what I need, all the sales will be over and I'll have to wait until the end of the season.

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Pretty sure its not twin tip. I think its a stretch to say "partial twin tip" for this ski. But it has rocker in tip and tail, so they are slightly raised.

 

You are doing the parks, or terrain parks. What you described is exactly that: a slope with obstacles and jumps to do tricks

 

They are not made for the park, I guess ideally you should get a park oriented ski, that will probably have edges reinforced


With twintips you need to size a bit longer, since part of the running length will be taken by the back tip. You are probably better off with a real symmetrical twin tip, but I have no idea what would be one. I only know a bit of Armadas, and I dont know what are their models for beg-intermediate

There is no prob if your DIN is 4, you around the middle of the DIN range. As you progress and get more aggressive or hit some jumps you might need to tune the bindings to a higher value, so they wont release in your landings or some aggressive situation. In fact your prob could be the opposite, like getting something with a binding range 5-14, then you would not be able to set 4 on it

So yeah, you wait and buy something in mid season with more info or get advantage of the offseason with some risk.
 

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You need to look at a park ski and decide the waist width according to the snow you are going to use it.

 

I see you are aiming for cheap models, so remember these skis dont have bindings integrated, so  you will have to buy the bindings also

 

Your best bet is to get something new  from previous seasons

 

The second salomon you've linked is more an all mountain twin that goes also into the park and not a park ski that does other stuff.

 

 

I see that you are going for the traditional brands, but here are several twin tips sepcialized companies like 4FRNT, Armanda, Line. You might find something from them. Maybe you could check in your local ski shop if they dont recommend a deal for you

 

I saw this vid from line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGjSFYcirE

 

Unbelievable amount of beating on those skis. Mine would not get 50 m close to those terrains

 

 

I dont have any better tip for you, really not into these types of skiing :/

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