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post #1 of 21
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Hi all!

So with the approaching winter, I am looking to upgrade from my current 07' K2 Public Enemy skis... They have served me well but their life is coming to an end.  The skis that have interested me are the wider (Around 90mm) all mountain "twins".  I have been looking at the Volkl Bridge, S3, Volkl Kendo, Mantra, Salomon 2012, Rossi Experience 98, and a few others.  The only one out of these that I have demoed was the S3, which I found excellent on everything except the groomers. Although that is not my favorite part of skiing, there are many days here on the east coast when I must stick to the groomers.  What does everyone suggest? The Bridge has been one of the standouts for me... I feel as though the Kendo and Mantra are more focused towards groomers.  Any suggestions and input is greatly appreciated. The brands that I like to stick to are K2, Rossignol, Volkl, and Salomon. Thanks!

post #2 of 21

I bought the Bridge just before last season, I love it. On groomers excellent most of the time actually, but I'd keep it away from any slopes that resemble an icerink (though that could be me...).

Your weight & height might help, as for me the bridge is a 70% powder ski, but that's because I weigh 165 at 175cm (riding a 179)... if you weigh a fair bit more than that then it's probably not going to perform as well in powder. (Especially because that would make something like the mantra more in your direction.) 

Hope that helps as far as the bridge is concerned...


Lukas



 

post #3 of 21
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Originally Posted by Lukas View Post

I bought the Bridge just before last season, I love it. On groomers excellent most of the time actually, but I'd keep it away from any slopes that resemble an icerink (though that could be me...).

Your weight & height might help, as for me the bridge is a 70% powder ski, but that's because I weigh 165 at 175cm (riding a 179)... if you weigh a fair bit more than that then it's probably not going to perform as well in powder. (Especially because that would make something like the mantra more in your direction.) 

Hope that helps as far as the bridge is concerned...


Lukas



 

Thanks for the reply! My height and weight is very similar to yours... 160 and 5'10". This would be my eastern all mountain ski (I know it is a little wide) and powder would be about 30% of my skiing.  My worry is that the Mantra or Kendo would not be too playful in bumps because of all the metal.  That is why I gravitated towards the bridge... Your post definitely helped

post #4 of 21

FWIW, many of the skis you mention, such as the Rossi E, the Kendo and Mantra are not twins in any way shape or form. IMO Bridge and Wall are excellent choices for a PE replacement, would also think about next season's Nordica twins in the 80's, Armada's AR7, and the K2 Press, which I think is its replacement for the PE/Extreme. The 2012 is a nice ski, but strictly for soft snow. I see a lot of S3's back here, especially in the woods, so they may not excel on ice, but they can get by on your typical eastern groomer. If you want more of a true twin park design but with rocker and all mountain capabilities, then the Rossi Storm gets a lot of nods. Hope you realize that no twin will handle eastern hardpack like a flat tailed directional ski. Just physics. 

post #5 of 21

I think it just really depends whether or not you're willing to compromise on piste fun for more powder ability. Although depending how quickly your local piste conditions turn into crud it might not be that bad to go for something like the S3 or Bridge.


Lukas

post #6 of 21
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Thank you for all of the input... For some clarification, I was looking for twin tip STYLE, not something park specific.  I just love the playfulness that I get out of most twins. I am hoping something like the Kendo wouldnt be too stiff to have fun in powder and bumps... Really wish I had some time to demohopmad.gif

post #7 of 21
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Any other thoughts?

post #8 of 21

Im on the east and I find the Kendo to be playful enough. I take it into the woods and powder (what we get out here) without any issue. It is okay on bumps but definitely not a bump ski by any means. It kills groomers at any speed and holds very well when the conditions get icy. It all depends on your priorities. The Kendo is going to be better than the bridge on groomers and at higher speeds. The Bridge will be better in powder and bumps. You would probably love both skis though. If you can demo before buying
 

post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by eastskier27 View Post

Thank you for all of the input... For some clarification, I was looking for twin tip STYLE, not something park specific.  I just love the playfulness that I get out of most twins. I am hoping something like the Kendo wouldnt be too stiff to have fun in powder and bumps... Really wish I had some time to demohopmad.gif

 

 

I don't find my Kendo's too stiff for bumps at all, I actually love them there. For powder they work well, they're not very 'surfy' feeling, but they plow through everything and keep you plenty stable.

post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by eastskier27 View Post

Thank you for all of the input... For some clarification, I was looking for twin tip STYLE, not something park specific.  I just love the playfulness that I get out of most twins. I am hoping something like the Kendo wouldnt be too stiff to have fun in powder and bumps... Really wish I had some time to demohopmad.gif

 

 

Double post. Woops.

post #11 of 21

I really enjoy my 187 Bridges all over- well when there is no new snow.

 

Great EC OSQ

post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by Eastcoastdad View Post

Im on the east and I find the Kendo to be playful enough. I take it into the woods and powder (what we get out here) without any issue. It is okay on bumps but definitely not a bump ski by any means. It kills groomers at any speed and holds very well when the conditions get icy. It all depends on your priorities. The Kendo is going to be better than the bridge on groomers and at higher speeds. The Bridge will be better in powder and bumps. You would probably love both skis though. If you can demo before buying
 

Summed that up pretty well I think... I find myself leaning towards the bridge because powder and bumps is what I would LIKE to ski, but I know that I will be stuck to the groomers many days.  Thank you for your input though! Just need to decide if I am up for a very stiff ski when I am used to my Public Enemies.  

 

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Originally Posted by FieldsofGlory View Post

I really enjoy my 187 Bridges all over- well when there is no new snow.

 

Great EC OSQ

How do you find the grip on the hard stuff with the bridges? 

post #13 of 21

I find grip great unless it is bullet proof ice, but i have never tuned the edges....

 

Put it this way, most of the time I find the grip just as good as my mantras. For my needs they are just overall a better ski than the Mantra too.

post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by FieldsofGlory View Post

I find grip great unless it is bullet proof ice, but i have never tuned the edges....

 

Put it this way, most of the time I find the grip just as good as my mantras. For my needs they are just overall a better ski than the Mantra too.

Grip just as good as the mantra? wow...  Do you find they are quick in the trees/bumps?

post #15 of 21

Keep in mind that statement is about softer groomers. Mantra still wins on ice.

 

We don't really get trees, so can't comment there. Great on bumps, the ELP profile makes pivoting in the bumps super easy. I ski the 187 length too.

post #16 of 21

Keep in mind that I have only skied the Bridge, and so I can only relate it to the Mantra from other posters' experiences.  The mantra will have superior grip on ice, but the bridge will be better in the trees and bumps.

post #17 of 21
I just bought a pair of bridges on ebay. I'm thinking I got them too short now. I got 179 and I'm 6 ft 210 weightlifter. I haven't skied much over the last ten years but I raced in highschool and I'm 32 now. I like to charge on occasion but I take it a little bit easier now days. Did I get the wrong size?!
post #18 of 21
I am trying to make the same choice as you Kyle. 6'2” and a very athletic 180 lbs. Always ski with a pack which adds some weight. The 187s were just delivered and man do they look great in that size. I love skiing tight trees though and am not sure if I should exchange. Everyone says Volkl skis measure and ski short but I measured them and they are pretty true to size. Of course I don't know how they ski yet. I have historically skied on shorter skis but something is making me want to try longer this time.
post #19 of 21

The 187 is super easy to ski and feels short. Stick with 187.

post #20 of 21
Hey Fields- Thanks for sticking with the thread. Do you mind providing your height and weight? Do you ski tight trees with the bridges and what mountains do you go to most? I was stalking your old threads and noticed you got the FKS for the bridges. Did you bend the 90mm brake? How did that work out?

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post #21 of 21
I am 6' 170lbs or so. I ski in New Zealand, so not really any trees. However , I do ski in lots of areas and zones where I need to make quick turns in places to avoid cliffs, rocks ect. I also spend a bit of time in Tahoe skiing alpine, Homewood, and squaw.

I am a big fan of fks bindings. I have them on all my skis. I actually bent the 75mm brakes to fit the bridges.
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