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kastle MX78 vs RX12 ? suggestions on which one to buy?

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I'm going to be skiing whiteface at lake placid for the next few years which i hear is really icy. Usually I like to be in the trees and bumps and off piste in variable conditions when I was out west, but don't think that is going to be the majority of the skiing opportunities and was thinking that i may get either the kastle MX78 or kastle RX12. Preferably I'd like it to be able to go into the trees and bumps as much as possible but my guess is even those areas are going to be really icy. Any suggestions?  Also-if I ski 168 normally- do I go down to 160 for RX12?

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ahh, "Ice-Face"?  the 78 will be more versatile but these are two different ski's. the 78 is doable in trees and bumps but the square-off tail like to carve. You could round off the tail a little to let it release a little easier. Not that you can't use it for bumps, it just takes a little more awareness.  The 78 is a superb ski capable of icy runs when properly tuned and is very stable. It's still in my quiver even though I have little use for it. It's just that good of a ski. 

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Trees are not icy.  Bumps can be.  Of course, what you call "icy" and what I call "icy" may be different.  smile.gif

 

I am guessing that the Kastle MX78 grips like the old Head Monster 78.  If it does, it is a good width and a good ski choice for Whiteface.  Unless this winter turns out to be a spectacular snow year (a problem I would love to have) there will only be a dozen days or so all winter when something wider is desirable. 

 

At Gore, which isn't quite as icy as Whiteface (not as windy, so the cover stays a bit better, and just a bit more snow), I ski K2 PEs/Extremes (85 mm waist twin tips) most days, Fischer RX8's (66 mm waist frontside carvers) on the days that I expect it to be REALLY icy.  The Kastles will split the difference between these two skis and provide a good one-ski quiver. 

 

Your Whiteface season pass is valid at Gore as well.  Wait for a day when the glades at Burnt Ridge Mtn. are open at Gore, then c'mon down and check it out.  You won't be disappointed.

 

STE

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I'm currently in this debate.

 

I hear the 78s are still great on hard snow and plenty powerful, but the RX12s are even better on hard snow.

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This is less about grip (obviously the RX12 has a bit more) or versatility (obviously the MX78 has a bit more) than about how many skis you want to own. If 2, I'd opt for the narrower ski to deal with the hard stuff, and then think about a high 80's to high 90's for soft days. But if this is your only ski, then the MX78 will be a little different in the bumps, touch softer and more surface if you get thrown around, touch less quick; far better in the soft stuff. A very nice choice for an eastern one-ski quiver. Either way, 168 if that's your usual. The RX is not hellishly stiff. Get a 1/3 tune, and keep your weight where it should be, or you'll think the edges are meh. 

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This is less about grip (obviously the RX12 has a bit more) or versatility (obviously the MX78 has a bit more) than about how many skis you want to own. If 2, I'd opt for the narrower ski to deal with the hard stuff, and then think about a high 80's to high 90's for soft days. But if this is your only ski, then the MX78 will be a little different in the bumps, touch softer and more surface if you get thrown around, touch less quick; far better in the soft stuff. A very nice choice for an eastern one-ski quiver. Either way, 168 if that's your usual. The RX is not hellishly stiff. Get a 1/3 tune, and keep your weight where it should be, or you'll think the edges are meh. 

 

I got slightly used 2012 RX12s for $550 on eBay, couldn't turn that deal down.

 

What do you mean by a 1/3 tune?

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I got slightly used 2012 RX12s for $550 on eBay, couldn't turn that deal down.

 

What do you mean by a 1/3 tune?

 

1/3 means one degree base bevel and three degrees of side edge angle.

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