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post #31 of 36
11/29/12 at 9:30am

Yeah, its really a red-flag to me whenever I see it in a post.......

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post #32 of 36
11/29/12 at 10:58am

I think you are right on SJ. I need to be better at the slicing you mentioned. I also would throw in that these so called "pushers" are also the same ones that want very stiff boots. I mash through the tongue and use a stiff boot. I think my skiing would benefit immensly from learning to slice, eventually balancing the two styles to be a better well rounded athlete.

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post #33 of 36
11/29/12 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by butryon View Post

I think you are right on SJ. I need to be better at the slicing you mentioned. I also would throw in that these so called "pushers" are also the same ones that want very stiff boots. I mash through the tongue and use a stiff boot. I think my skiing would benefit immensly from learning to slice, eventually balancing the two styles to be a better well rounded athlete.

 

You probably have a good read on your style. One thing is for sure, if you use the front of the boot less and the lateral a bit more, you will become more agile in mixed terrain. If you have your shin buried in the boot tongue you are loading your pressure heavily toward the forward portion of the ski. To make a quick move, you have to unload off the front, get recentered, and then do something to try and miss that oncoming tree. OTH, if you are closer to centered, you can increase or decrease your ankle flex and edge angles, bend the ski a little differently, and change your trajectory more easily.

 

This can often save you from hitting something harder than your head.

 

SJ

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post #34 of 36
12/2/12 at 8:33am
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Here's a good review of the 183 with plenty of discussion afterwards: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/211141-Review-183-Armada-TST It sounds like an interesting ski. Very deep sidecut. Although the discussion stresses that it's pretty stiff, and the reviewer is 200 lbs, so suspect the forgiving quality is related to the fact that its shape is a downsized JJ without the tail rocker, rather than it's a noodle. 


That review on TGR sold me on this ski, sight unseen, last season. I have the 183's and after riding them for awhile, I think the longer 192? may have been better for my 210lbs.  However, I did buy this as my in between day ski, where there may be a little powder left/around, but I would likely be skiing mostly soft leftovers or Mammoth wind buff.  Even at my weight, point em, get a little spend going and they plain up nicely in boot to knee deep pow. They are a very easy ski to turn, which I like in pow and around trees or steep sections, but I am not a big fan of it in a wide open area, where I would like a larger turn radius or on firm snow where I want to open up the speed more. Whether a light weight or a heavier guy, this ski has a lot to offer most anyone that is a pretty good skier.  It does ski extremely short for it's marked length, so definitely go a size bigger than normal.

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post #35 of 36
12/31/12 at 6:09am

FWIW- full review up on Blistergear - interesting but this class is getting hot.  

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post #36 of 36
12/31/12 at 10:26pm

After five days on mine so far, I've updated my review here. All smiles.
 

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