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Full tilt boots and stiffness

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Well i was fitted at the end of last season for full tilt first chairs... i didn't bite the bullet as this years models have the rubber sole so wanted to wait for them... but after a summer of thinking i am still weary of these boots - 

 

I have used race boots my entire life - Atomic and Lange

I love the fact that these boots are so light

I love the liner

Flex of them scare me used to 130 flex boots since i was 14 and now 32

No longer racing so learning park and skiing everything - piste, off piste bumps

I ski in Scotland so mainly piste here but intending one US vacation and one Alps vacation this winter

 

i was thinking of buying the seth Morrison ones and getting a 10 tongue as they only come with 8...

 

so just wanting to see peoples opinions, go for it or maybe a rethink?

post #2 of 15

the 8 flex is fine for just about all our local guys.   and you can buy the 10 if you really need it.

like ANY boot:  if it fits you, it is the right boot.

 

other then that, I'm not sure what you are asking?

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
What flex is the 8 comparable to?

How do they ski compared to 4 buckle boots?

I am 225lbs 6'3 lean...
post #4 of 15
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What flex is the 8 comparable to?
 

 

110ish

 

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Originally Posted by scottydonald View Post

How do they ski compared to 4 buckle boots?

 

for flex:  bit softer to start with,  hard to bottom out.

 

for shape:  all depends what fits your foot.    Just like all red ski boots might not fit you, all 3 part boots might not (or might)

 

 

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I am 225lbs 6'3 lean...

eat a cheese burger

post #5 of 15

personally, i believe you will hate them!

 

why? because you have skied in a race boot all your life, and nothing on the planet feels like a race boot after you have skied in a race boot!

 

maybe a softer or slightly more generous lasted race boot but something with the same lateral response is what you will find most familiar and probably ski best in

 

but hey, that is just an opinion

post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by CEM View Post

personally, i believe you will hate them!

 

why? because you have skied in a race boot all your life, and nothing on the planet feels like a race boot after you have skied in a race boot!

 

maybe a softer or slightly more generous lasted race boot but something with the same lateral response is what you will find most familiar and probably ski best in

 

but hey, that is just an opinion

 

thats interesting... you are the first person that has said that... 

 

now you have me thinking more...

post #7 of 15

only based on people i have fitted in the past, a couple that hd been "given" full tilt but went back to their race boots due to feelings of not having support/transmission 

post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by CEM View Post

only based on people i have fitted in the past, a couple that hd been "given" full tilt but went back to their race boots due to feelings of not having support/transmission 

 

what other options, in the same foot shape, are there for me then to look into - as an option for the 2013 season then???

 

i am actually sitting here on my lunch looking into all the 2013 boots... 

post #9 of 15

scottydonald,

 

Looking at pictures and descriptions won't answer your question---you will need to try on as many brands of race level boots 

as you can to determine fit and feel----I'm sure it has been mentioned before we can't see your feet from here.

 

Find local shops that carry the boots you like and go in and standing around in as many models as you have time to do,

will be the only way to eliminate the boots that aren't shaped like your feet.

 

Also do a shell check on each boot model (the same marked sizes in different brands will not have the same inside volume) as described in the WIKI "Which boot will work for me" at the top of "Ask the boot guy's"

 

mike

post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by miketsc View Post

scottydonald,

 

Looking at pictures and descriptions won't answer your question---you will need to try on as many brands of race level boots 

as you can to determine fit and feel----I'm sure it has been mentioned before we can't see your feet from here.

 

Find local shops that carry the boots you like and go in and standing around in as many models as you have time to do,

will be the only way to eliminate the boots that aren't shaped like your feet.

 

Also do a shell check on each boot model (the same marked sizes in different brands will not have the same inside volume) as described in the WIKI "Which boot will work for me" at the top of "Ask the boot guy's"

 

mike

Oh yes i entirely understand all that...

 

just been reading reviews etc of ones that may be an option for what i am skiing... 

post #11 of 15

I think the point is that all boots are an option for what you ski.  It is only about what you find comfortable and what your personal preferences are in a ski boot. 

 

Lou

post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 

thanks guys i was down trying on the boots and am going to go with the full tilts... Seth Mos and buy 10 tongue - First chairs and buy a 8 tongue... Will buy world cup booster straps also...

 

didnt buy there as got confused -

 

RIGID BOOT BOARD

 

vs

 

ACTIVE BOOT BOARD

 

how much do you feel the difference when you ski??? i will be doing everything in these boots so will i be better off getting the Seth Mos with the active board in them???

post #13 of 15

I can't feel a difference in mine, but some people claim to be able to.  I'm also not looking for edge grip on 110mm skis, or hucking in the park.

 

Both boot boards are orderable either way.

post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 

ok thanks... will go seths at the weekend then...

 

i will be using my FIS 24m GS skis, FIS slalom skis in scotland and then my Kung Fujas with these and then whatever skis i buy for powder in Utah next year... leaning towards bent chetlers... but who knows... 

 

all in all i still own my Atomic race boots...

post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 

well skied my 10th day on these boots this season -

 

3 days here in Val D'Isere and 7 in Scotland...

 

so far i love them... comfortable, light and the flex and squeaking has taken a bit of time to get used to... but now used to them...

 

Had a bit of outside foot soreness but this i think was from the footbeds evening out my weight on my feet... and now not getting this at all.. 

 

managed some nice GS turns today close to 80mph on my Kung fujas on some lovely glacier snow and all felt very good... 

 

so far so good... thanks guys for the help..

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